Retrofit iDrive 5.0 & Apple Carplay?

crbalch · 07-19-2016, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by eatsleepblink281

Just read on Macrumors that Kia will let their cars from 2014 -2017 have a free update to include Carplay....really hoping BMW can have this feature too.....doubt it would be free but don't mind paying the $300 if my M235i can have CarPlay on it

Exactly, I would gladly pay the money to get carplay in...we will see though. Probably not going to see anything related to this until after the new year

jamiey · 07-25-2016, 08:57 AM

N.B. the instructions for CarPlay on manual that downloaded for my 2017 M240i state that WiFi on the vehicle must be on. This would suggest you need the new Wi-Fi hotspot option enabled.

The implementation BMW have done may for "wireless CarPlay" only.

crbalch · 08-10-2016, 12:45 PM

Hey quick update, I have someone working on the idrive 5.0 retrofit components, so I will be able to update the thread soon with that info!

siwo · 08-11-2016, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by crbalch

Hey quick update, I have someone working on the idrive 5.0 retrofit components, so I will be able to update the thread soon with that info!

Subbed! Want to hear the update.

EnriqueSaidThis · 08-11-2016, 09:43 AM

A one year hardware difference not enough for a software update?! I'm pretty damn sure that the M235i with the Tech Package has enough hardware to handle the update. Buttons with different labels does not mean new hardware. And even if there was new stuff under the hood, the M235i is pretty well equipped regardless.

Companies like KIA, VW, and Hyundai allow retrofit updates to 2014 models and their hardware sucks. Kind of surreal when the car industry expects you to buy a new car for a software update when companies like Apple don't even expect that on phones.

Can't wait for someone to grab a 2017 VIN and try a retrofit.

crbalch · 08-11-2016, 10:56 AM

I wholeheartedly agree. Based on what I am told, it will require a new FSC code, and a CAN filter installed behind the HU. As of now, not sure which CAN filter, still working on that.

As more cars roll out with iDrive 5.0, I am sure we will see plenty of retrofits...just a bit of a waiting game right now.

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Originally Posted by EnriqueSaidThis

A one year hardware difference not enough for a software update?! I'm pretty damn sure that the M235i with the Tech Package has enough hardware to handle the update. Buttons with different labels does not mean new hardware. And even if there was new stuff under the hood, the M235i is pretty well equipped regardless.

Companies like KIA, VW, and Hyundai allow retrofit updates to 2014 models and their hardware sucks. Kind of surreal when the car industry expects you to buy a new car for a software update when companies like Apple don't even expect that on phones.

Can't wait for someone to grab a 2017 VIN and try a retrofit.

raleedy · 08-11-2016, 04:02 PM

An upgrade for a price would be nice. The alternatives described above sound to me like organ theft or grave-robbing. Not for me, especially on a leased car.

EnriqueSaidThis · 08-12-2016, 08:28 AM

Agreed. I wouldn't mind BMW coming out and saying: "Hey iDrive4 owners, here's a list of pre-iDrive5 vehicles that we can upgrade to the new tech. All for a fee of $X."

I'm certain there are others who are willing to splash the cash just to get shiny new tech in their vehicles.

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Originally Posted by raleedy

An upgrade for a price would be nice. The alternatives described above sound to me like organ theft or grave-robbing. Not for me, especially on a leased car.

nike001 · 08-16-2016, 07:18 PM

I've heard that the new 5 series is getting iDrive 6.0 (not 100% sure if it was 6.0, I just remember hearing that it's getting a new iDrive)

I also heard that us iDrive 4.2 people will be soon getting, from the Connected store, an app for CarPlay. That'd make retrofitting 5.0 useless.

JohnnyCanuck · 08-16-2016, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nike001

I've heard that the new 5 series is getting iDrive 6.0 (not 100% sure if it was 6.0, I just remember hearing that it's getting a new iDrive)

I also heard that us iDrive 4.2 people will be soon getting, from the Connected store, an app for CarPlay. That'd make retrofitting 5.0 useless.

Actually it wouldn't. While more people here seem to use iOS, there are a lot of us who are on Android for whom iDrive 5.0 should offer us things like a proper Spotify implementation and other goodies that are now only available to 7 series drivers.

crbalch · 08-16-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nike001

I've heard that the new 5 series is getting iDrive 6.0 (not 100% sure if it was 6.0, I just remember hearing that it's getting a new iDrive)

I also heard that us iDrive 4.2 people will be soon getting, from the Connected store, an app for CarPlay. That'd make retrofitting 5.0 useless.

This would be amazing and yes I agree it would make idrive 5 less appealing

nike001 · 08-16-2016, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyCanuck

Actually it wouldn't. While more people here seem to use iOS, there are a lot of us who are on Android for whom iDrive 5.0 should offer us things like a proper Spotify implementation and other goodies that are now only available to 7 series drivers.

..Cant you just connect your weird Android phone via USB port and go to ConnectedDrive and open the Spotify app?

JohnnyCanuck · 08-16-2016, 09:51 PM

nope. ConnectedDrive for Android doesn't support anything but actual music files. No Spotify, no podc*st app, no nothing.

I was really proud of myself for making no anti-Apple comment in my post but you had to go ruin it by calling my phone "weird". Bloody iLemmings

siwo · 08-16-2016, 10:20 PM

For a fee to add CarPlay, I would most likely go for it. As long as the fee isn't absurdly priced. But it's a BMW, they'll overprice it and we'll still pay for it.

Gabrola · 08-16-2016, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nike001

I've heard that the new 5 series is getting iDrive 6.0 (not 100% sure if it was 6.0, I just remember hearing that it's getting a new iDrive)

I also heard that us iDrive 4.2 people will be soon getting, from the Connected store, an app for CarPlay. That'd make retrofitting 5.0 useless.

Yes, you are correct. ID6 is the touchscreen version of ID5 which should be offered on the 5/6 series and X5/X6 as far as I know.

crbalch · 08-17-2016, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by siwo

For a fee to add CarPlay, I would most likely go for it. As long as the fee isn't absurdly priced. But it's a BMW, they'll overprice it and we'll still pay for it.

The fee on new car orders is $300 so I have to assume it would be that, or not much more. I would definitely pay to have CarPlay.

crbalch · 08-17-2016, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nike001

I've heard that the new 5 series is getting iDrive 6.0 (not 100% sure if it was 6.0, I just remember hearing that it's getting a new iDrive)

I also heard that us iDrive 4.2 people will be soon getting, from the Connected store, an app for CarPlay. That'd make retrofitting 5.0 useless.

Where did you hear that we will be getting an app for CarPlay from the store?

isthar · 09-03-2016, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by crbalch

Hey quick update, I have someone working on the idrive 5.0 retrofit components, so I will be able to update the thread soon with that info!

+1 for someone that would pay $$ to be able to swap up to iDrive 5.x

Shankska · 09-06-2016, 10:07 AM

subscribed. MY16 M2 has old idrive. Would like 5.0 and carplay. I am sufficient with coding and would be willing to attempt this retrofit.

crbalch · 09-06-2016, 10:10 AM

Bimmer-tech has the option to retrofit iDrive 5.0 and Carplay for under $450. As of now, it looks like there are some caveats so I am waiting for some others to do it first but that may be a good option rather than waiting forever for BMW.

Nelson@BimmerTech · 09-07-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shankska

subscribed. MY16 M2 has old idrive. Would like 5.0 and carplay. I am sufficient with coding and would be willing to attempt this retrofit.

ID5 requires a software update, you will need a battery charger and also FSC code for Carplay. The downside is that you will lose BMW Online services and from a software aspect there's nothing we can do about that. 2017 models have new hardware, ATM telematics which even if there was retrofit available for it BMW would never activate it because car did not come with it.

Gabrola · 09-08-2016, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nelson@BimmerTech

ID5 requires a software update, you will need a battery charger and also FSC code for Carplay. The downside is that you will lose BMW Online services and from a software aspect there's nothing we can do about that. 2017 models have new hardware, ATM telematics which even if there was retrofit available for it BMW would never activate it because car did not come with it.

Hello,

What about screen mirroring? I heard that it may not work. What determines that?

Cheers

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EnriqueSaidThis Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 2016 M235i xDrive Coupe Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	This is ridiculous A one year hardware difference not enough for a software update?! I'm pretty damn sure that the M235i with the Tech Package has enough hardware to handle the update. Buttons with different labels does not mean new hardware. And even if there was new stuff under the hood, the M235i is pretty well equipped regardless. Companies like KIA, VW, and Hyundai allow retrofit updates to 2014 models and their hardware sucks. Kind of surreal when the car industry expects you to buy a new car for a software update when companies like Apple don't even expect that on phones. Can't wait for someone to grab a 2017 VIN and try a retrofit. Last edited by EnriqueSaidThis; 08-11-2016 at 10:01 AM..
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