[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Hasser

Ive just read the whole of this thread trying to get the best set up.
loads of information and pictures. this is probably the only thread you need in deciding what wheel/tyre fitments work on the F22.

but I have one question I couldn't figure out.

the Front wheels in a 19 x 8.5 et 40.........could I run a 235/35/19 tyre with the car lowered on Blistein B12 pro kit? lowering is not aggressive , maybe 15mm at most front and 20mm rear.

for the rears ive concluded that a 19 x 9.5 et 45 will be fine running 255/30/19 tyre.

just the fronts to decide if a 225 or 235 width would be best.

If going straight you’ll have no issues. If you turn though definitely will rub unless you have some camber.

[Hasser]

Originally Posted by Joe240

If going straight you’ll have no issues. If you turn though definitely will rub unless you have some camber.

you mean rubbing with a 235?

is it because a front 8.5 x 19 with a ET 35 running a 235/30 tyre is pushed further out by 5mm than a ET 40?

EDIT:

just done a check - because off the overall diameter.

with a 225 tyre you only gain 1.45mm in ride height - with the 235 you gain 4.95mm

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Hasser

you mean rubbing with a 235?

is it because a front 8.5 x 19 with a ET 35 running a 235/30 tyre is pushed further out by 5mm than a ET 40?

EDIT:

just done a check - because off the overall diameter.

with a 225 tyre you only gain 1.45mm in ride height - with the 235 you gain 4.95mm

225 or 235 doesn’t matter. That’s the cross patch. What dictates your ride height is the side wall profile. 235/40 is taller (bigger diameter) than a 235/30.

However, the cross section can be distorted slightly by mounting it on a wider or narrower wheel. That’s how you get stretch tires on wheels.

Yes, a 8.5et35 pokes 5mm more (further from the suspension) than 8.5et40. With an 8.5 wheels, the maximum offset before rubbing on the strut is ~39-40, depending on who you ask.

The issue with using an 8.5 wheel up front, even with a 39-40 offset, is that a 225 tire is stretched, therefor has more clearance to the strut (tire doesn’t bulge) and the inner fender. With a 235 tire, it’s not as stretched so you lose clearance on both the strut side and inner fender.

On stock suspension, this isn’t a problem utilizing a 235 tire on an 8.5et39-40 wheel. When you lower on springs only, you get ever so slight camber, but not enough to clear the inner fender during turns. If you roll the inner fender, you MIGHT be able to clear when turning, but if that turn also has a bump then you will rub, possibly damage your fender. If you use camber plates or coil overs with camber adjustment, then you can camber enough to clear the fender.

Camber is caused by tilting the strut in, which in turn pulls the top of the wheel in (where the rubbing would occur without camber). This is why camber creates clearance for the 235 tire mounted on an 8.5 wheel.

[Hasser]

Originally Posted by Joe240

225 or 235 doesnÂ’t matter. ThatÂ’s the cross patch. What dictates your ride height is the side wall profile. 235/40 is taller (bigger diameter) than a 235/30.

However, the cross section can be distorted slightly by mounting it on a wider or narrower wheel. ThatÂ’s how you get stretch tires on wheels.

Yes, a 8.5et35 pokes 5mm more (further from the suspension) than 8.5et40. With an 8.5 wheels, the maximum offset before rubbing on the strut is ~39-40, depending on who you ask.

The issue with using an 8.5 wheel up front, even with a 39-40 offset, is that a 225 tire is stretched, therefor has more clearance to the strut (tire doesnÂ’t bulge) and the inner fender. With a 235 tire, itÂ’s not as stretched so you lose clearance on both the strut side and inner fender.

On stock suspension, this isnÂ’t a problem utilizing a 235 tire on an 8.5et39-40 wheel. When you lower on springs only, you get ever so slight camber, but not enough to clear the inner fender during turns. If you roll the inner fender, you MIGHT be able to clear when turning, but if that turn also has a bump then you will rub, possibly damage your fender. If you use camber plates or coil overs with camber adjustment, then you can camber enough to clear the fender.

Camber is caused by tilting the strut in, which in turn pulls the top of the wheel in (where the rubbing would occur without camber). This is why camber creates clearance for the 235 tire mounted on an 8.5 wheel.

thanks,
makes sense now.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Hasser

thanks,
makes sense now.

Np

[VMRWheels]

Originally Posted by Hasser

Ive just read the whole of this thread trying to get the best set up.
loads of information and pictures. this is probably the only thread you need in deciding what wheel/tyre fitments work on the F22.

but I have one question I couldn't figure out.

the Front wheels in a 19 x 8.5 et 40.........could I run a 235/35/19 tyre with the car lowered on Blistein B12 pro kit? lowering is not aggressive , maybe 15mm at most front and 20mm rear.

for the rears ive concluded that a 19 x 9.5 et 45 will be fine running 255/30/19 tyre.

just the fronts to decide if a 225 or 235 width would be best.

This is hard to say. We have quite a few customers that run 8.5 ET45 with a 3mm spacer (ET42) along with a 235 tire. The ET40 would be only 2mm more aggressive, so any rubbing issues may be mitigated with a touch of negative camber. It's tough to guarantee a rub free fitment with it though.

Hopefully someone who has run similar fitment can chime in!

[Hasser]

Originally Posted by Joe240

Np

just read the whole thread again

I see you are running a 235 front and 265 rear on the wheel specs i'm looking at.

how you finding it - any modes needed? alignment change?

probably play it safe and go 225 front and 255 rear though.

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Hasser

just read the whole thread again

I see you are running a 235 front and 265 rear on the wheel specs i'm looking at.

how you finding it - any modes needed? alignment change?

probably play it safe and go 225 front and 255 rear though.

I’m on stock suspension so no rubbing issues. Didn’t need to roll fenders or anything. I went 235/265 because of xdrive. It’s a closer rolling diameter than 225/255. Oh and no I didn’t need to realign or anything. Car drives straight every time. Only thing I’d change (now) is the DWS tires. They’re great, but I live in Florida now. Would like to get some PS4S for better grip

[Hasser]

Originally Posted by Joe240

I’m on stock suspension so no rubbing issues. Didn’t need to roll fenders or anything. I went 235/265 because of xdrive. It’s a closer rolling diameter than 225/255. Oh and no I didn’t need to realign or anything. Car drives straight every time. Only thing I’d change (now) is the DWS tires. They’re great, but I live in Florida now. Would like to get some PS4S for better grip

now i'm in a dilemma as to whether or not to go 235 front.

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by VMRWheels

abirmaher on gunmetal VMR V710

- Wheel Size/Offset
(F) VMR V710 19x8.5 ET35
(R) VMR V710 19x9.5 ET45

- Tire Size/Brand
(F) 225/35/19 Michelin PSS
(R) 255/30/19 Michelin PSS

- Suspension Setup
H&R Springs

- Camber/Alignment Specs
Not specified. Stock camber arms/plates

- Modifications to make fit (if necessary)
None =)

No spacers?????
And would this same setup work with 18s no modifications???

[abirmaher]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

No spacers?????
And would this same setup work with 18s no modifications???

No spacers. And if you go same width and same offset I don't see why not

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by abirmaher

No spacers. And if you go same width and same offset I don't see why not

Yea I figured this but the guys at pep boys who installed my rims and tires used my old 12 mm spacer and says the rears wouldent fit otherwise. I figured this wasn't true cuz I saw your post running the same setup with 19s
So you'd think I'd be fine taking off the spacers tmm?
Because as of now there's ridiculous poke

[abirmaher]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

Yea I figured this but the guys at pep boys who installed my rims and tires used my old 12 mm spacer and says the rears wouldent fit otherwise. I figured this wasn't true cuz I saw your post running the same setup with 19s
So you'd think I'd be fine taking off the spacers tmm?
Because as of now there's ridiculous poke

Depending on your tire width as well. I ran a 255 though I feel you could go up to a 265 without many issues. But yeah I would think so. I mean you could always try removing the spacer and then just try one wheel on and see if it rubs or hits anything just by visually inspecting it when it's lifted up.

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by abirmaher

Depending on your tire width as well. I ran a 255 though I feel you could go up to a 265 without many issues. But yeah I would think so. I mean you could always try removing the spacer and then just try one wheel on and see if it rubs or hits anything just by visually inspecting it when it's lifted up.

They are 255 mpss vmr v710 wheels 18x9.5 et45

[abirmaher]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

They are 255 mpss vmr v710 wheels 18x9.5 et45

Unless you have a really tall side wall you should have zero issues. My rears were 255 30 19, I'm 99% you should be fine.

And if you do happen to need a bit of spacer just get a thinner one.

[Acalamito321]

Originally Posted by abirmaher

Unless you have a really tall side wall you should have zero issues. My rears were 255 30 19, I'm 99% you should be fine.

And if you do happen to need a bit of spacer just get a thinner one.

I'm gonna go to a local shop I went to to have my spoiler and spacers put on for the previous tires and ask them to take the spacers off and see if they anything
I think pep boys was just being paranoid or didn't know

[abirmaher]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

I'm gonna go to a local shop I went to to have my spoiler and spacers put on for the previous tires and ask them to take the spacers off and see if they anything
I think pep boys was just being paranoid or didn't know

Probably. Most of those bit chain shops have to cover their asses and don't take the time to do things right IMO.

[mankid247]

Hey guys just got a set of 19 vmr 801s in anthracite with ps4s, love them!

Running 8.5 et35 and 9.5 et45 with dinan springs tire sizes are 225/35/19 255/30/19

[sea_m2c]

Can I please get some pricing for the below specs shipped to 98106? Are there any discounts to forum members versus buying through ebay etc...?

v801 Titanium Black Shadow
Front - 19x8.5 5x120 ET35
Rear - 19x9.5 5x120 ET45

Thanks!

[Mr Carrots]

Originally Posted by mankid247

Hey guys just got a set of 19 vmr 801s in anthracite with ps4s, love them!

Running 8.5 et35 and 9.5 et45 with dinan springs tire sizes are 225/35/19 255/30/19

Those look awesome, did you consider a 265 PSS for the rear or was it the risk of rubbing that made you go 255?

[Joe240]

Originally Posted by Mr Carrots

Those look awesome, did you consider a 265 PSS for the rear or was it the risk of rubbing that made you go 255?

265 would for sure rub with a 9.5et45 on lowering springs.

[VMRWheels]

Originally Posted by Acalamito321

I'm gonna go to a local shop I went to to have my spoiler and spacers put on for the previous tires and ask them to take the spacers off and see if they anything
I think pep boys was just being paranoid or didn't know

If you are running an effective 9.5 ET33 (ET45 + 12mm spacer), I would recommend taking off the spacers ASAP. The 9.5 ET45 requires no spacers, or any other aftermarket hardware, to install on an F22. If your shop says otherwise, take the car somewhere else.

Originally Posted by mankid247

Hey guys just got a set of 19 vmr 801s in anthracite with ps4s, love them!

Running 8.5 et35 and 9.5 et45 with dinan springs tire sizes are 225/35/19 255/30/19

Great looking setup! Thanks for posting your pics!

Originally Posted by sea_m235i

Can I please get some pricing for the below specs shipped to 98106? Are there any discounts to forum members versus buying through ebay etc...?

v801 Titanium Black Shadow
Front - 19x8.5 5x120 ET35
Rear - 19x9.5 5x120 ET45

Thanks!

PM incoming!