[rwalker]

OP, your setup looks great. Thanks for posting.

As others have noted, it's likely it'll rub on track.

I used to run 18x9et41 with 255/35r18 Toyo Proxes R888s (which has at least 6mm less poke than your setup). This setup rubbed the rear fender in some corners, attached is a pic of such.

This is stock rear suspension.

[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by Cloud IX

I used a measuring stick to get it as parallel as I could. You can see how much it pokes. I'm pretty sure the if the wells actually got low enough, would I doubt they would, the resulting camber would actually tuck them in.

Nice, doesnt poke that much, looks good... I wonder with 1/2" drop and 18/265 pss would clear with camber.?

[Cloud IX]

Thanks for your input rwalker.

If a set up like yours, which is obviously pulling much more forces than anyone will on the street, sometimes rubs in those corners with stickier tires, I'm a lot more confident it is perfectly fine for my street set up.

This is obviously not a set up for hardcore driving on the track, due to the size and weight of the rims. That's what my Kosei's are for. =D

I also have a drag racing set up which I'm trying to get together right now. Having a hard time sourcing what I need though...

[Cloud IX]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

Nice, doesnt poke that much, looks good... I wonder with 1/2" drop and 18/265 pss would clear with camber.?

Not sure about the 18s, but for my setup I think it would be fine if you had 2+ degrees of camber. For a track set up.

rwalker What you think?

I would never run these on the track due to weight, price of tires, etc.

[rwalker]

Originally Posted by Cloud IX

Thanks for your input rwalker. Was it rubbing on the suspension or the fender?

The rear fender. 18x9et41 is well clear of anything inboard in back.

Originally Posted by Cloud IX

If a set up like yours, which is obviously pulling much more forces than anyone will on the street, sometimes rubs in those corners with stickier tires, I'm a lot more confident it is perfectly fine for my street set up.

There are also big bumps and full loads to consider: we have a local freeway that feels at 90mph like a Dukes of Hazzard chase (i.e. full suspension compression).

I don't mean to sound discouraging. My rubbing wasn't a show-stopper; yours shouldn't be either.

[rwalker]

Originally Posted by Cloud IX

Not sure about the 18s, but for my setup I think it would be fine if you had 2+ degrees of camber. For a track set up.

rwalker What you think?

I would never run these on the track due to weight, price of tires, etc.

I can't speak from personal experience, but I'm pretty sure there's plenty room for 265s in the rear. Lots of folks run 'em, but most at higher offsets than OP.

[M235iTW]

Originally Posted by ocN55

I thought the same thing until I mounted my wheels. ET45 will not clear the front strut, you will need a 3mm spacer at the very least. 5mm if you want to run 235 tire.

3mm spacer to run a 225 tire?

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by M235iTW

3mm spacer to run a 225 tire?

Possibly, but I would get 5mm to be safe.

[M235iTW]

Originally Posted by ocN55

Possibly, but I would get 5mm to be safe.

Wow, very unfortunate to hear. So those wheels can't be used right out the box without spacers?

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by M235iTW

Wow, very unfortunate to hear. So those wheels can't be used right out the box without spacers?

Correct. No bid deal though, just get some spacers. Almost every E36 racecar I've seen uses them.

[Cloud IX]

Originally Posted by rwalker

The rear fender. 18x9et41 is well clear of anything inboard in back.


There are also big bumps and full loads to consider: we have a local freeway that feels at 90mph like a Dukes of Hazzard chase (i.e. full suspension compression).

I don't mean to sound discouraging. My rubbing wasn't a show-stopper; yours shouldn't be either.

Oh it won't. I have no problem if I bottom out and my fenders go. Would give me the excuse to get the widebody I'm thinking of.

[rwalker]

Originally Posted by M235iTW

3mm spacer to run a 225 tire?

it's not the tire, the wheel would hit the strut

the distance from the hubface to the strut is about 150mm, if your wheel has more inner depth than that it'll hit the strut

18x8.5et45 has about 153mm of depth

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by rwalker

it's not the tire, the wheel would hit the strut

the distance from the hubface to the strut is about 150mm, if your wheel has more inner depth than that it'll hit the strut

18x8.5et45 has about 153mm of depth

Yup. It's friggin close.

[M235iTW]

Originally Posted by rwalker

it's not the tire, the wheel would hit the strut

the distance from the hubface to the strut is about 150mm, if your wheel has more inner depth than that it'll hit the strut

18x8.5et45 has about 153mm of depth

Thank you for the explanation. Isn't this false advertising by Apex?

I am looking for a bolt on fit that allows me widest tire possible (235/265) without any additional modifications (spacers, lowering, lca, rolling fenders, etc).

[ocN55]

Originally Posted by M235iTW

Thank you for the explanation. Isn't this false advertising by Apex?

I am looking for a bolt on fit that allows me widest tire possible (235/265) without any additional modifications (spacers, lowering, lca, rolling fenders, etc).

It's a losing battle, just get spacers and move on. Either that or order some HRE's with custom offsets.

[rwalker]

Originally Posted by M235iTW

Thank you for the explanation. Isn't this false advertising by Apex?

I am looking for a bolt on fit that allows me widest tire possible (235/265) without any additional modifications (spacers, lowering, lca, rolling fenders, etc).

After re-reading this thread and looking at Apex's site, I think there may be slight differences in rotor hat thickness and/or tire width that makes the Apex 18x8.5et45 up front problematic for some and not others...

I have not test fit my Apex 18x8.5et45 wheels without tires on my car, but I run 5mm spacers in order for my 255/35r18 tires to clear the strut (implying 255/2+40=167.5mm of inner depth from rotor hat face to strut at tire height).

[M235Montreal]

Originally Posted by rwalker

After re-reading this thread and looking at Apex's site, I think there may be slight differences in rotor hat thickness and/or tire width that makes the Apex 18x8.5et45 up front problematic for some and not others...

I have not test fit my Apex 18x8.5et45 wheels without tires on my car, but I run 5mm spacers in order for my 255/35r18 tires to clear the strut (implying 255/2+40=167.5mm of inner depth from rotor hat face to strut at tire height).

It would be amazing if an Aprex representative chims in on this issue, granted their test car had Nitto Tires but they should be as wide as a PSS or Conto DW's

[wakemcs]

Originally Posted by Cloud IX

I used a measuring stick to get it as parallel as I could. You can see how much it pokes. I'm pretty sure the if the wells actually got low enough, would I doubt they would, the resulting camber would actually tuck them in.

Could you take a photo or two of the rear with the suspension compressed? Like it would be on a driveway incline or something. I'm lowered a good amount so I'm curious as to the fitment at full compression.

I also wouldn't mind a photo or two of the front while you're at it.

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by Cloud IX

Finally got them put on and they fit fine. No rubbing. No issues of any kind. No cutting, rolling or anything else.

Multiple vendors on here wanted to upcharge me 500+ dollars for "correct" offsets, but after doing the math, decided that the factory offsets would fit, and they do. There is a little bit of poke, but a lot of cash in my pocket for other mods.

Here are the specs.

Advant Garde M510s
19x8.5F +35ET 235/35/19
19x9.5R +40ET 265/30/19
Wrapped in Michelin Pilot Super Sports. Factory Suspension.

It's dark out now and I'll take some better pictures tomorrow.

Cloud This whole post has been super helpful as id also like to get rolling on 235/265. HRE offeres a 19x9.5 ET42 and ET44

This is saying it would poke out either 2mm or 4mm further than yours right?
Do you think that would fit?

Thanks

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Cloud This whole post has been super helpful as id also like to get rolling on 235/265. HRE offeres a 19x9.5 ET42 and ET44

This is saying it would poke out either 2mm or 4mm further than yours right?
Do you think that would fit?

Thanks

No, ET42 will poke 2mm less than ET40 and ET44 will poke 4mm less... meaning that you might actually hit the strut on the inside

http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php...et2=42#content

http://www.willtheyfit.com/index.php...et2=44#content

[Cloud IX]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Cloud This whole post has been super helpful as id also like to get rolling on 235/265. HRE offeres a 19x9.5 ET42 and ET44

This is saying it would poke out either 2mm or 4mm further than yours right?
Do you think that would fit?

Thanks

The rears would be perfect. The fronts will hit the suspension for sure though.

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by Cloud IX

The rears would be perfect. The fronts will hit the suspension for sure though.

dammit I was really hoping you'd say I was SOL! I wasn't planning of getting wheels any time soon, but I was just emailing HRE and they are doing 20% off right now.


Last two questions

1. If for some reason I did rub my fail safe would be a.) cut plastic shock cover back, or b.) sell 265s and go to 255s? (that would look fine on a 9.5 rim and have clearance right?)

2. 19x8.5 ET40 & 19x8.5 ET30 are the two offset options closest to what you have for the front. I would be willing to roll fenders if needed. Do you think 40, 30, or 30 with a 5mm spacer would be best.

From what ive read I think 5mm works right? Would less than 5mm be a safer bet? Do those exist?