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      11-19-2021, 12:15 PM   #177
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Here’s what I’m currently running


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255/35/18 Nexen Sur4G
7mm spacer
APEX 75mm M14 BMW 5 Lug Hex Head Stud Kit

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FL-5 18x8.5 +35
-2.4 camber
255/35/18 Nexen Sur4g
APEX 75mm M14 BMW 5 Lug Hex Head Stud Kit



That being said if I wanted EC-7 And a 255 front and 265 rear I will need
Rear
- EC7 18x9.5 +58 for rear
- 5mm spacer for rear
- 265/35/18 Nexen Sur4G for rear
- -2.4 camber and fender lining trimming

- EC7 18x8.5 +35 for front
- 7mm spacer to clear shock body
- 255/35/18 Nexen Sur4G
- -3.0 of camber



Why would I need a hub extender? Would I Need one with this setup?

I’m currently running a 7mm spacer on the 75mm studs and have no issues
For the new EC-7 setup, you likely won't need the additional negative camber and liner/boot trimming if you are running the 5mm spacer, but the additional negative camber will definitely help performance when cornering hard.

We recommend hub extenders for spacer setups in between the 5mm and 12mm range as spacers of this width reduce the amount of support given by your OE hubcentric ring. The OE ring typically protrudes ~10mm so a 7mm spacer only leave 3mm of ring to support the wheel and keep it hubcentric. The extender is particularly important when using a 10mm spacer that eliminates the OE ring as the wheel would not be hubcentric at that point. The hub extender isn't an ideal solution, but it does give you more flexibility.

A hub extender in your case isn't 100% necessary, but it wouldn't hurt.

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Cross posting from an older Facebook group post that didn't make it to these forums. Here is someone on stock M235i suspension claiming to have no rubbing issues with a 5mm front spacer and 17x9 ARC-8 with 255/40 Falken Azenis RT615K+







I'm hoping to accomplish the same or even avoid the spacer with Michelin Pilot AS4 which I imagine might not run as wide but would appreciate any input. I know the APEX website recommends 12mm minimum front spacer.
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Cross posting from an older Facebook group post that didn't make it to these forums. Here is someone on stock M235i suspension claiming to have no rubbing issues with a 5mm front spacer and 17x9 ARC-8 with 255/40 Falken Azenis RT615K+



I'm hoping to accomplish the same or even avoid the spacer with Michelin Pilot AS4 which I imagine might not run as wide but would appreciate any input. I know the APEX website recommends 12mm minimum front spacer.

That fitment can work with a smaller than 12mm front spacer with the right suspension setup and a tire that doesn't run too wide. Really an 8mm spacer would be most idea for most cases however you would also need hub extenders as there isn't enough lip exposed with the 8mm size. 12mm ensures there's ample clearance and no issues with vibration, but does require added camber.

This car below has the following specs:
  • F/R: 17x9" et42 ARC8-R with Bridgestone RE71R's in 255/40/17

  • 75mm stud conversion
  • 5mm front spacer
  • Swift Spec-R springs (250#F, 600#R, 1" drop)
  • Vorshlag camber plates
  • m-Performance m240i bumpstop
  • front inner fender lips rolled
  • Dinan Shockware upgrade
  • Camber settings: 2.5 deg (F), 1.8 deg (R)





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17x9et42 Arc8s hit the vibration damper weights on the rear brake pads.
But if you knock them off (or have track pads that don't have them) then they will fit.
The front needed a 5mm spacer.



I know this is an old post, but anyone know how to do this? My arc 8s have like 1mm clearance and removing these would be great as I'm scratching up my barrel every time I take them on and off.
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17x9et42 Arc8s hit the vibration damper weights on the rear brake pads.
But if you knock them off (or have track pads that don't have them) then they will fit.
The front needed a 5mm spacer.



I know this is an old post, but anyone know how to do this? My arc 8s have like 1mm clearance and removing these would be great as I'm scratching up my barrel every time I take them on and off.
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I imagine taking a grinder to the square side of the shim would take it off
Will try this. Thanks!!
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Paging BMW owners in the Bay area! If you're interested in free professional photos of your car on brand new APEX wheels, we are looking for volunteers for testfiitting and photoshoots! Volunteers will get copies of the photos, a discount on a set of APEX wheels, and APEX goodies/swag. If you're interested in volunteering, please fill out and submit our online form. All are welcome. Show us what you've got!

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I had no concerns with the increased diameter. It results in the speedometer reading closer to actual. ~1 mph over actual vs. ~2 mph over actual. That's about it.
The only concern I had was using the 5mm spacers, because I had never used spacers before. I thought there might not be enough hub length remaining for proper centering and there might be vibration or other functional issues.
Fortunately, those concerns turned out to be unfounded. There were no issues. Just be sure to thoroughly clean the hub & rotor surfaces before mounting the spacers, use the correct length extended wheel bolts and take your time properly tightening/torquing them.
I'm very happy with how this setup feels. And, the car looks great! No regrets.

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Which extended wheel bolts did you buy for your set up? Thanks!
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I used these:
https://www.apexraceparts.com/store/...lug-bolts.html
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Which extended wheel bolts did you buy for your set up? Thanks!
I used these:
https://www.apexraceparts.com/store/...lug-bolts.html
Thank you! Do you know which thread pitch you did and if all of them are the same or should I measure to be sure? And also with your wheel and tire set up, do you think there's enough room to run lowering springs? Or would you have to keep it at stock height to fit the 235's and 265's
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Thank you! Do you know which thread pitch you did and if all of them are the same or should I measure to be sure? And also with your wheel and tire set up, do you think there's enough room to run lowering springs? Or would you have to keep it at stock height to fit the 235's and 265's
I think it was the 14mm. But, ask Apex, they'll know.
I can not confirm or deny if they would fit with non-OE springs, but I don't think so.
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Thank you! Do you know which thread pitch you did and if all of them are the same or should I measure to be sure? And also with your wheel and tire set up, do you think there's enough room to run lowering springs? Or would you have to keep it at stock height to fit the 235's and 265's
I think it was the 14mm. But, ask Apex, they'll know.
I can not confirm or deny they if they would fit with non-OE springs, but I don't think so.
No worries thank you! How do I ask apex? Just shoot them an email?
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No worries thank you! How do I ask apex? Just shoot them an email?
Here:
https://www.apexraceparts.com/support/

Or

You can tag users here in the forum by using "@" in front of their username, like this: Expert@ApexRaceParts
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That fitment can work with a smaller than 12mm front spacer with the right suspension setup and a tire that doesn't run too wide. Really an 8mm spacer would be most idea for most cases however you would also need hub extenders as there isn't enough lip exposed with the 8mm size. 12mm ensures there's ample clearance and no issues with vibration, but does require added camber.

This car below has the following specs:
  • F/R: 17x9" et42 ARC8-R with Bridgestone RE71R's in 255/40/17

  • 75mm stud conversion
  • 5mm front spacer
  • Swift Spec-R springs (250#F, 600#R, 1" drop)
  • Vorshlag camber plates
  • m-Performance m240i bumpstop
  • front inner fender lips rolled
  • Dinan Shockware upgrade
  • Camber settings: 2.5 deg (F), 1.8 deg (R)

-Ian
Thanks for your input! I was well aware of this setup as well as very other that lives on the internet thanks to an obsessive amount of browsing. I ended up going with the fairly proven 17x8.5 et40 and 245/40 square setup and couldn't be happier!

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Apex EC7 Anthracite, m235i with Dinan Lowering Springs

Front 19x8.5 et 35, 225/35/19
Rear 19x9.5 et 43, 255/30/19

Toyo Proxes AS

Just had these installed today. Absolutely no rubbing anywhere and no spacers needed. The rears have a slight poke which makes it even more aggressive. I am actually thinking that 225/40/19 and 255/35/19 would fit too, to fill in that gap a little more. Oh well! Don't have to deal with fender rolling!
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That fitment can work with a smaller than 12mm front spacer with the right suspension setup and a tire that doesn't run too wide. Really an 8mm spacer would be most idea for most cases however you would also need hub extenders as there isn't enough lip exposed with the 8mm size. 12mm ensures there's ample clearance and no issues with vibration, but does require added camber.

This car below has the following specs:
  • F/R: 17x9" et42 ARC8-R with Bridgestone RE71R's in 255/40/17

  • 75mm stud conversion
  • 5mm front spacer
  • Swift Spec-R springs (250#F, 600#R, 1" drop)
  • Vorshlag camber plates
  • m-Performance m240i bumpstop
  • front inner fender lips rolled
  • Dinan Shockware upgrade
  • Camber settings: 2.5 deg (F), 1.8 deg (R)

-Ian
Thanks for your input! I was well aware of this setup as well as very other that lives on the internet thanks to an obsessive amount of browsing. I ended up going with the fairly proven 17x8.5 et40 and 245/40 square setup and couldn't be happier!

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That fitment can work with a smaller than 12mm front spacer with the right suspension setup and a tire that doesn't run too wide. Really an 8mm spacer would be most idea for most cases however you would also need hub extenders as there isn't enough lip exposed with the 8mm size. 12mm ensures there's ample clearance and no issues with vibration, but does require added camber.

This car below has the following specs:
  • F/R: 17x9" et42 ARC8-R with Bridgestone RE71R's in 255/40/17

  • 75mm stud conversion
  • 5mm front spacer
  • Swift Spec-R springs (250#F, 600#R, 1" drop)
  • Vorshlag camber plates
  • m-Performance m240i bumpstop
  • front inner fender lips rolled
  • Dinan Shockware upgrade
  • Camber settings: 2.5 deg (F), 1.8 deg (R)

-Ian
Thanks for your input! I was well aware of this setup as well as very other that lives on the internet thanks to an obsessive amount of browsing. I ended up going with the fairly proven 17x8.5 et40 and 245/40 square setup and couldn't be happier!

[img]https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/tmwGib.jpg[/img]
What brakes do you have? Any issues with caliper clearance? That's the only thing holding me back from ordering your exact setup.
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What brakes do you have? Any issues with caliper clearance? That's the only thing holding me back from ordering your exact setup.
I have the stock M sport brakes (as opposed to the optional big brake package). While the fitment is tight, I have absolutely no issues with the clearance. So unless something changed throughout the years, I don't think you would have any either provided you carefully mount them to avoid scratching and accept the risk that theres a possibility of debris getting jammed in there and scratching your wheel. Highly recommend!
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Today I attempted to have Apex EC-7 E45 18x8.5 mounted on my 2017 M240i, with 5mm spacers in the front. The tolerance with the shock was very very tight, even without a tire mounted.
Has anyone else experienced this? Best to my knowledge the suspension is all stock, with the blue M brake calipers.

Will the EC35s give me more clearance? 10mm maybe? I tried to do my homework but I guess I got greedy.
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Today I attempted to have Apex EC-7 E45 18x8.5 mounted on my 2017 M240i, with 5mm spacers in the front. The tolerance with the shock was very very tight, even without a tire mounted.
Has anyone else experienced this? Best to my knowledge the suspension is all stock, with the blue M brake calipers.

Will the EC35s give me more clearance? 10mm maybe? I tried to do my homework but I guess I got greedy.
Following.

I have the same wheels on the way and I was planning on doing the exact same set-up with 245/35 Michelin PS4S. However, I'll be on KW V2's.

I didn't want to add camber plates but now it sounds like they may be necessary.
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Today I attempted to have Apex EC-7 E45 18x8.5 mounted on my 2017 M240i, with 5mm spacers in the front. The tolerance with the shock was very very tight, even without a tire mounted.
Has anyone else experienced this? Best to my knowledge the suspension is all stock, with the blue M brake calipers.

Will the EC35s give me more clearance? 10mm maybe? I tried to do my homework but I guess I got greedy.
What size tire do you plan to run?

The 18x8.5" ET45 with a 5mm spacer allows you to have a bit more outer fender clearance compared to the 18x8.5" ET35 or ET38. With that said, we have seen plenty of customers run a 18x8.5" ET45 with a 5mm spacer and 235/40-18 tires on F22s with stock suspension without any inner clearance issues. yes, the inner strut/tire clearance will be tight, but as long as you have 2-3mm you will be in good standing.

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What size tire do you plan to run?

The 18x8.5" ET45 with a 5mm spacer allows you to have a bit more outer fender clearance compared to the 18x8.5" ET35 or ET38. With that said, we have seen plenty of customers run a 18x8.5" ET45 with a 5mm spacer and 235/40-18 tires on F22s with stock suspension without any inner clearance issues. yes, the inner strut/tire clearance will be tight, but as long as you have 2-3mm you will be in good standing.

-Geirsen
I was indeed planning on running PS4S 235/40-18 tires. I guess I was under the impression that 2-3mm was a little too close for comfort. That does seem to be the clearance there.

The shop has both 235/40-18 and 225/40-18s in stock....would the 225s be "safer"? I'm kind of new to this....
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