[Leo88]

Originally Posted by BMW-ALPINA

It actually looks not too bad. What I am most surprised about is why it is named as a 2-series and not 1-series. Or how about a V-series as it has been speculated since the 2000's.

It annoys me that BMW suck when it comes to LED technology. Audi and Mercedes put LEDs in everything and all models, while BMW does not do this. C'mon BMW. We live in 2014!!.

And when we get to see some decent entisuast cars that compete with MB SLS/R8 (do not try to say i8), MB AMG GT, MB S-Class coupe + + + Wake up BMW!!!! Mercedes and Audi will be the leaders in just few years.

Audi can build the R8 because they can share project costs with Lamborghini, infact the Gallardo and R8 are based on the same platform and the V10 engine is the same.
Mercedes can afford to build a SLS/AMG GT because they sells a lot of A-class, B-class, V-class, CLA, GLA, GLK, and you know what? They are all FWD cars.
BMW is trying to do wat Mercedes is doing since mid 90s.


I prefer a BMW that sells this MPV and a sporty RWD 3 series than something like WV group that build that awful FWD/AWD A4/A5.

[Pure]

Beautiful!

[N & M]

The artist impression was promising. The concept car was interesting. Sorry BMW another style zero.

[Pure]

4 new paints !
Flamenco Red Brilliant effect
Platin Silver
Atlantic Grey
Mediterranean Blue

Via. BMW Deutschland Visualizer

[cncmastr]

FWD M sport. Oxymoron.

[fndrsn]

The gear selector is the ugliest part about the car! Props to BMW, the B-Class is gonna have to watch itself now

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

The styling/interior/refinement of the new 2015 Golf R is excellent, you can see some Audi influence. 290hp, dual clutch transmission, and awd far out way any of that nonsense. Oh and it is said to get 33 mpg.

A mini-van fwd BMW, oh that just screams prestige. LOL

Brand Loyalty - in other words "badge whoring"

Won't be $40k in the US.

I suppose you feel better paying $40k for a Mini with a BMW badge.

Yup

Nope. Paying 40k+ for a MINI JCW is equally appalling. Regardless of how BMW-like the steering and handling is. But hey if you're fine paying that much for a hatch, I say go for it.

[kdbryce]

a shit load of M badges all over this thing is just what we need....

[VR1]

2/13/14. The day BMW sold its soul.

[F80NJM3]

Man1:"What do you drive dude?"
Man2: "BMW 2 series"
Man1: "The van or the car"??
Man2: "ummmm... "

[Haides]

Dont like the oversized headlights and taillights, it looks unproportional to the size of the car..
from the rear it looks too much like mercedes b class..
its jusr commercial model, no emotion..

[Rupes]

Originally Posted by OneDirty

"the harmoniously proportioned Active Tourer oozes sportiness from every angle"

I thought the same thing. Is this meant as a joke? No seriously, can you even type that with a straight face?

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by kdbryce

a shit load of M badges all over this thing is just what we need....

Don't worry--they're coming.

And the worst part is that people will buy this effing thing...but if I needed a bigger vehicle for my family, it would be something different than this.

[Rupes]

I don't care about FWD, and hell I wouldn't care if BMW did make a sweet minivan. But this is just plain awful looking. People here keep calling it a minivan. In reality, it just looks like a minivan minus the practicality of a minivan. The doors open instead of slide. It's also quite small, so don't think of putting 7 people in here with all your gear and going cross country to visit grandma.

Seriously, what is this car for? People who hate life I think. Tall and lumbering, yet small, impractical, and underpowered.

I honestly can't figure it out!!!

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by EnI

Since BMW have no intention to offer additional vans than Active Tourer and its LWB version: the Gran Tourer, there would be illogical to start a new series (eg. F-series, V-series, E-series etc).

Therefore only two alternatives were possible: to put 1er or 2er badge on the Active Tourer / Gran Tourer.

BMW opted for 2er badge - officially due to Active Tourer / Gran Tourer is larger and more expensive than 1er, and the nomenclature oozes that.

But the real reason is: BMW are making space for the sub-1er series.

Currently the 2er Coupe & 2er Active Tourer are badged as 2er - soon be followed by 2er Convertible & 2er Gran Tourer (= LWB version of Active Tourer).

The next generation of 1er will also be based on FWD platform (named "UKL"), and will also come with additional versions beside 3dr & 5dr hatch ... and it will be rebadged to 2-series!

So, the 1er badge will be available for a smaller BMW-badged MINI-sized car - a direct rival to Audi A1.

This also indicates that in the future X1 (most likely the Mk3 X1) will be rebadged to X2. Possible 3dr SAC version of a small BMW SAV will be marketed under the "xCoupe" trademark. X4 & X6 & possible X8 will retain the even nomenclature for the SAC versions of the X3 / X5 / X7 SAVs.

Regarding RWD platform: everything from 3-series & up (incl the midsized & full-sized SAV & SAC models) will be based on the new highly modular multi-material RWD platform. Only the RR Phantom family will feature dedicated all-aluminum platform & body frame.

Everything under 3er will be based on FWD UKL platform in the future (1er, 2er, X1 etc) - including all the MINI models (possible sub-MINI model - based on Rocketman Concept - will be based on a shrunken UKL0 platform but BMW seeks a partner for this particular project).

All the platforms are AWD compatible & plug-in hybrid compatible. So, there will be technically possible every MINI & BMW model can get an AWD or plug-in hybrid version in the future.

Not to mention the modular platforms will be extremely profitable - especially combined with modular engine platforms.

Right now BMW Group has plans to put (at least) 15 models on "UKL" FWD platform, and (at least) 30 models on "35up" RWD platform.

Wait, I had thought that the 2er coupe would always be RWD? This is the first I had heard of the plan to include the 2er on the FWD train. :/

If this is true, we have lost the small, sporty, RWD coupe that we all love. I won't ever get a 4er--it's just too damn big...

Sigh....

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by unintelligible

New style of Steptronic shifter? Looks like it's going back to the old style.

Originally Posted by Harold Wood

I like it, now lets have some fun

http://roger-lighterness.artistwebsites.com/

You know you should do the M2. I want to see how that would go down and see the reaction on peoples faces.
It's not going to happen anyway in reality.

[mkoesel]

Great! Any pictures, or a link to the visualizer?

Originally Posted by Purecraftgerman

4 new paints !
Flamenco Red Brilliant effect
Platin Silver
Atlantic Grey
Mediterranean Blue

Via. BMW Deutschland Visualizer

[simfer]

BMW is to late with this Kia beat them to it with the Rondo

[monkawekrue]

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[Powaup]

It would make so much sense to call this a 1 series

[Ash83]

WTF !!!!!!!

[EnI]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

If this is true, we have lost the small, sporty, RWD coupe that we all love. I won't ever get a 4er--it's just too damn big...

Small, sporty, RWD-based coupe will most likely be the sports car developed in collaboration with Toyota. Rumor has it will be a plug-in hybrid: Z3 eDrive on BMW's side, and Prius Coupe on Toyota's side.

Platform, drivetrain & powertrain will be developed together - while each model will feature different design & body styling. It looks like Prius Coupe will be a true 4-seater while Z3 will be a 2+2-seater.

The layout is rumored to be similar to i8: ICE in the rear + electro motor in the front. Although the car won't utilize the BMWi-specific LifeDrive platform - but it will be a conventional body frame with some CFRP parts. Also the styling will be in line with core BMW brand not with BMW i sub-brand styling.



Future UKL-based 2er Coupe will most probably offered in AWD-only variant in some markets like eg. US. At least the M Performance variant (M235i xDrive).