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Well...
Here is irony at its best; I took out my RF RFT this morning at 0550 on my way to a 0615 meeting on I-84 in Hartford. gotta love New England! Time to buy a spare...!
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Dude...What to say...So sorry. That's Exhibit A, B and C...
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04-23-2019, 09:41 AM | #28 |
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My regrets as well. Does provide another chance to quote one of my favorite vehicle development engineers from my car company career...
"Designers love big wheels. Engineers don't" Low aspect ratio tire sidewalls are the bane of so many owner's existence!
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Thanks guys.
I have to admit I chuckled to myself after the impact (knew the tire was gone immediately) since we were just conversing about this yesterday. No comment goes unpunished...
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That sucks. I was a couple of hours behind you this morning apparently. I'm glad I missed that pothole! I was a bit further away from home and I don't have run-flats!
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I came across an article Sunday while trying to make sense of my circumstances and to find helpful opinion. It's from the online version of The Bergen Record, a leading newspaper in northern New Jersey. I found it interesting reading something written for the average suburban driver rather car forum fanatics. You know when low profile cautionary tales hit critical mass, there's something of a pandemic assault taking place on a largely unsuspecting public. Nothing we haven't learned the hard way but may be worth sharing with others... https://is.gd/PDtUrD There's a cool video that goes along with the article that will bring solace and a sense of "solidarity."
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“Low-profile tires make cars ride lower to the road, so they’re naturally more vulnerable when they sink into one of these holes,” said the senior mechanic. The outer diameter of the entire wheel/tire assembly should be maintained (or within a minuscule variation) in a +1, +2 application. The "doughnut" doesn't grow larger if the hole is bigger. There is just less doughnut around more hole. That is the same with low profile tire...more wheel, less rubber, same overall diameter/circumference (perhaps slight variation). The car doesn't "sink" to the ground. The edge of the rim is closer to the ground! As an ex-Brooklynite, I guess one has to make allowances for what gets said in Jersey!
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Back on point, wondering if you had an opinion on moving to 17" tires and wheels on a 2 Series, mine being the 240i. |
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Directionally, the benefits of lower rotating mass (assuming the 17s you choose weigh less) are: 1) Improved acceleration 2) Shorter braking distance 3) Improved ride quality 4) Improved protection for the rims with more tire sidewall 5) Improved fuel economy Admittedly, some of these changes are small, but they are directionally not harmful and actually beneficial. As to design, I'm very happy with what BBS offers. You may prefer others, but be sure they clear the blue MSport brake calipers. Not all 17s do. (P.S. My calipers were originally MSport blue, but were painted Valencia Orange to match the car, as were the mirror caps.)
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Luxury at the redline :)
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https://www.bbs-usa.com/road_wheels/...s.cfm?wheel=89
Certainly not the lightest 17s around, but in my case, the tire sidewall height on the Moonchigan lunar landscape roads was the primary motivation, and I really liked these for design.
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Stick,
Excellent summary and analysis. FYI, I blew out five 225-45-17 tires on my B5 S4 in about 18 months here in lovely CT a few years back. Thank goodness for forged Avus wheels...apparently karma caught up with me after 20 years of flat free driving... I will be going to 17" snows for sure but will likely stick with the square 18" setup for the summer months once I get organized this spring. Plynth, great thread BTW. Not the way we would like to have to start a thread but a lot of good info and fun feedback. Stick, thanks for calling out the nimrod on the low profile tires quote, that statement in the article was total rubbish. I will have to try 24" rims with 225-10-24 tires on my car. That will make it a super duper low rider... (disclaimer... folks, please do not calculate this out and hammer me, I just made this up for humorous purposes only...!). Stick, your car is lovely. I adore that color. Nice ride.
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If you want some really strong but stylish rims, I suggest the M Performance 624M wheels. They're 19s but are made of forged material so it's three times stronger than a standard alloy wheel, making them less susceptible to bending or damage like the stock 235/240 wheels.
When I had my 235i, you would have to pay high-end BBS prices for wheels this light but they're available BMW MP. I know it sounds counter-productive to suggest larger wheels for a pothole issue but being the forged wheels are lighter (20.4lbs) and stronger, they're better at withstanding heavy impact without budging. You just need some Michelin 4S tires, with Tire Rack's free road hazard tire warranty and It will just you cost some time to resolve an unfortunate tire issue.. https://www.shopbmwusa.com/Product/4...TIRE-SET-BLACK Total pussy magnet: |
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Secondly, sorry for my writing. As there may have been a presumption that downsizing the wheel is a loss of some kind, I was trying to mimic the conversational style of, "Not only is it not a bad thing, it's actually a good thing!" I didn't pull that off very well, but again, nothing to worry about. Quote:
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Unicorn, I think you get co-credit on the thread for being such a good sport in recognizing a supreme irony and continuing to make great contributions!
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Poochie...nice kitty! Wheels look great as well. Thank you for the photos.
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Bent rims, blown tire and damaged shock
I blew out a new Michelin Pilot SS, bent 2 rims and a shock hitting a pothole during a heavy rainstorm last week in my 4 month old M240 xdrive. The killer is that I just had my 18" wheels and summer tires put on 3 weeks ago. The tire had no miles on it. Had tire insurance but had to replace the shock and get the rims straightened so I hate the 18" wheels already. Useless in Massachusetts.
BMW sold me a 17"winter wheel/ tire package when I took delivery late Nov. but the tires are 205/50/R17s. Does anyone know if the BBS SRs that Stick mentioned above take 225/45/R17s? Any other 17" wheels that will clear the calipers? |
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I have 225/45-17 Michelin X-Ice Xi3 winter tires on my BBS SR 17X7½ ET35 wheels, and I expect that most tires of that size will fit on those wheels and clear the M-sport brakes. Regarding fitment, don't hesitate to check with the Tire Rack to be sure.
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