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      09-18-2021, 01:06 PM   #1
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481WHP Stock Turbo M235i

Greeting y'all I just wanted to show the results of my most recent Dyno test.


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Note: I do have a boost leak you can see it at the tail end of the graph when my power starts to fall
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Is this wheel hp or euro crank hp?
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Dynocom dynos compute power numbers to whp and wtq. Dynocom dynos read quite a bit higher (~15%) than a Dynojet dyno. On a Dynojet (which is the dyno most use), the numbers would be around 410-420whp and 450-460wtq which is about what I'd expect for the mods and an ethanol tune and stock turbo.
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Dynocom dynos compute power numbers to whp and wtq. Dynocom dynos read quite a bit higher (~15%) than a Dynojet dyno. On a Dynojet (which is the dyno most use), the numbers would be around 410-420whp and 450-460wtq which is about what I'd expect for the mods and an ethanol tune and stock turbo.
I don't know much about dynocoms, but what you stated seems about right.

Without a log or knowing how much timing, it's hard to believe 480/540+ on the stock turbo at 18.5lbs of boost.
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Dynocom dynos compute power numbers to whp and wtq. Dynocom dynos read quite a bit higher (~15%) than a Dynojet dyno. On a Dynojet (which is the dyno most use), the numbers would be around 410-420whp and 450-460wtq which is about what I'd expect for the mods and an ethanol tune and stock turbo.
The car on a SAE correction made around 465whp and based on the cars I've raced that looks to be about right
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do you have baseline numbers?
Yes stock the car made around 310whp and on a stage 2 E-30 tune the car made 403whp I also ran the E30 tune with full E and upgraded pumps and it made 413 whp and 500+ torque
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Dynocom dynos compute power numbers to whp and wtq. Dynocom dynos read quite a bit higher (~15%) than a Dynojet dyno. On a Dynojet (which is the dyno most use), the numbers would be around 410-420whp and 450-460wtq which is about what I'd expect for the mods and an ethanol tune and stock turbo.
The power is highly dependent on the amount of Load the Dyno applies my power Ranged from 430whp with no load to up to 480whp with a interpolated load
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Dynocom dynos compute power numbers to whp and wtq. Dynocom dynos read quite a bit higher (~15%) than a Dynojet dyno. On a Dynojet (which is the dyno most use), the numbers would be around 410-420whp and 450-460wtq which is about what I'd expect for the mods and an ethanol tune and stock turbo.
I don't know much about dynocoms, but what you stated seems about right.

Without a log or knowing how much timing, it's hard to believe 480/540+ on the stock turbo at 18.5lbs of boost.
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=612e...0b434470c0010e


This is the last log I sent to my tuner it is a street tune
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Your map certainly runs more timing than any OTS. The closest OTS map to your custom map is probably BM3 e30 stage 2+ which runs 21 psi and 13 degrees of timing.

The log above shows you running 18 degrees of timing with a target of 18.5psi of boost.

It would be interesting to see a bit more boost with the higher timing. There’s definitely room for more power over the stage 2+ OTS IMO.
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Yes stock the car made around 310whp and on a stage 2 E-30 tune the car made 403whp I also ran the E30 tune with full E and upgraded pumps and it made 413 whp and 500+ torque
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Yes stock the car made around 310whp and on a stage 2 E-30 tune the car made 403whp I also ran the E30 tune with full E and upgraded pumps and it made 413 whp and 500+ torque
you made 413 whp with the BM3 ots stage 2+ e30 map?
and you made 481 whp with the custom tune?
do you have any logs when running the ots tune for comparison?

how would you compare the 2 tunes?
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Your map certainly runs more timing than any OTS. The closest OTS map to your custom map is probably BM3 e30 stage 2+ which runs 21 psi and 13 degrees of timing.

The log above shows you running 18 degrees of timing with a target of 18.5psi of boost.

It would be interesting to see a bit more boost with the higher timing. There’s definitely room for more power over the stage 2+ OTS IMO.
those 18 degrees of timing is well past where his car peaked, so that shouldn't have an outcome on the total output.

At your peak hp ~5100rpm, there's only 9.5 degrees of timing and 18.5lbs of boost, at peak torque you have 7 degrees of timing and 20.6lbs of boost. The max MAF HFM you hit is about 40.2 on one pull. For comparison the stage 2+ is at 11 degrees of timing and 19lbs of boost at 5100rpm, at 4000rpm its at 9 degrees of timing and 21.5lbs of boost, and maxes out the MAF HFM at 41.3.

I'm not saying there isn't a gain to be had over the stage 2+, but I'm having a difficult time believing that dyno isn't inflating numbers.

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I'm having a difficult time believing that dyno isn't inflating numbers.
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Just leaving this here, take it with a grain of salt https://www.instagram.com/p/CEmxnj-g..._web_copy_link
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Is that your ots+ log you're refrencing? I would like to see if you want to pm it!

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those 18 degrees of timing is well past where his car peaked, so that shouldn't have an outcome on the total output.

At your peak hp ~5100rpm, there's only 9.5 degrees of timing and 18.5lbs of boost, at peak torque you have 7 degrees of timing and 20.6lbs of boost. The max MAF HFM you hit is about 40.2 on one pull. For comparison the stage 2+ is at 11 degrees of timing and 19lbs of boost at 5100rpm, at 4000rpm its at 9 degrees of timing and 21.5lbs of boost, and maxes out the MAF HFM at 41.3.

I'm not saying there isn't a gain to be had over the stage 2+, but I'm having a difficult time believing that dyno isn't inflating numbers.
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Is that your ots+ log you're refrencing? I would like to see if you want to pm it!
I was actually referencing one on here. Either way here's one I took this morning. I had to cut the pull short. I'm having an annoying connectivity issue where it loses connection to the vehicle. I can try to get another in a few days.

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=615c...90c67c64a9cf7e



you don't mind sending me one of yours? I'm interested in seeing what yours looks like.

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I was actually referencing one on here. Either way here's one I took this morning. I had to cut the pull short. I'm having an annoying connectivity issue where it loses connection to the vehicle. I can try to get another in a few days.

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=615c...90c67c64a9cf7e



you don't mind sending me one of yours? I'm interested in seeing what yours looks like.
Just shot you a pm
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Your map certainly runs more timing than any OTS. The closest OTS map to your custom map is probably BM3 e30 stage 2+ which runs 21 psi and 13 degrees of timing.

The log above shows you running 18 degrees of timing with a target of 18.5psi of boost.

It would be interesting to see a bit more boost with the higher timing. There's definitely room for more power over the stage 2+ OTS IMO.
those 18 degrees of timing is well past where his car peaked, so that shouldn't have an outcome on the total output.

At your peak hp ~5100rpm, there's only 9.5 degrees of timing and 18.5lbs of boost, at peak torque you have 7 degrees of timing and 20.6lbs of boost. The max MAF HFM you hit is about 40.2 on one pull. For comparison the stage 2+ is at 11 degrees of timing and 19lbs of boost at 5100rpm, at 4000rpm its at 9 degrees of timing and 21.5lbs of boost, and maxes out the MAF HFM at 41.3.

I'm not saying there isn't a gain to be had over the stage 2+, but I'm having a difficult time believing that dyno isn't inflating numbers.
The two maps aren't even comparable if I'm being honest it's an entirety different car on the custom tune
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Just leaving this here, take it with a grain of salt https://www.instagram.com/p/CEmxnj-g..._web_copy_link
It just depends on the Dyno and the conditions, my tuner has had stock turbo N55 hit over 500whp the local tuner has hit 435whp with a stock fuel system
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The two maps aren't even comparable if I'm being honest it's an entirety different car on the custom tune
I don't think you're understanding.
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