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      08-06-2022, 10:10 AM   #23
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Getting my PPF installed next week on every inch of my M8, and wanted to see what brands you've used.

Right now, I'm going with XPEL Pro.

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XPEL Ultimate Plus?

Where are you planning to get it done? I'm also local So. FL

Expect to spend around $5-6K to get your entire car done.
Our gtr got full ppf costing 10k… it was a really good job but jeez let me know where you're going
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      08-06-2022, 10:20 AM   #24
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That seems low, but it may vary by region.

In Denver, I've been quoted $6500-9500 for a full car from 4 different places.

Suntek or Xpel seem to be the preferred options.
Appears to be locations dependent, they are charging $2,500-$4,300 for partial and upwards of $7,000-$10,000 for full her in San Francisco bay area.
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Appears to be locations dependent, they are charging $2,500-$4,300 for partial and upwards of $7,000-$10,000 for full her in San Francisco bay area.
The shops in South Florida are charging considerably less for full PPF.
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That seems low, but it may vary by region.

In Denver, I've been quoted $6500-9500 for a full car from 4 different places.

Suntek or Xpel seem to be the preferred options.
For full ppf, around $5-6K for a smaller car and $6-7K for a larger sedan is common in So FL. SUVs can be closer to 10K. If you're a discerning customer and want a quality job with properly finished edges, few relief cuts, etc. It could cost 8K+ here for a sedan. We have lots of competition, but many of them are production shops that use plotter templates and don't take the time to do the artistry needed for a pristine finish. Most owners don't care enough for it to motivate the production shops to improve.
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      08-06-2022, 10:23 PM   #27
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I should have specified it. I am the second owner; purchased the car in the summer of 2020. The PPF was installed in November, 2020 so less than 2 years. I would not complaint if it was installed 10 years ago
The film and installation have lifetime warranty so I might have them do it over but it was a huge pia as they had to re-do the whole hood the last time.
To be honest, I did not notice the yellowing until one of my buddy pointed it out to me. Maybe it won't be that bad on darker cars.
Quick question do you have a Ceramic Coating on top of the PPF and if so is it XPEL's Fusion?
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      08-06-2022, 11:18 PM   #28
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Quick question do you have a Ceramic Coating on top of the PPF and if so is it XPEL's Fusion?
XPEL Ultimate Fusion has ceramic coating built into it, so no need to add ceramic coating
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XPEL Ultimate Fusion has ceramic coating built into it, so no need to add ceramic coating
Interesting, so even the infused ppf is having the yellowing problem.
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Interesting, so even the infused ppf is having the yellowing problem.
I have not heard nor actual seen, I got my car back on the 26th of July after getting the entire car PPF. I never had this issue on my X5 M50i, I had the entire vehicle in XPEL PPF. I have always been 110% satisfied with XPEL products (PPF, ceramic coating & tint) and I have never had any issues. If one is experiencing this, have them redo, since you have a 10 year warranty with XPEL.
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Quick question do you have a Ceramic Coating on top of the PPF and if so is it XPEL's Fusion?
XPEL Ultimate Fusion has ceramic coating built into it, so no need to add ceramic coating
I don't see this claim on the Xpel website. Kindly provide the link.
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I don't see this claim on the Xpel website. Kindly provide the link.
https://www.xpel.com/ultimate-fusion...rotection-film
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I have XPEL Ultimate Plus on my e93 M3! The film is starting to get yellow tint; my car is Alpine White so somewhat noticeable under bright daylight. The car always park inside the garage so I am very disappointed with XPEL as it wasn't cheap to have it done.
Do you have Ultimate Plus or Ultimate Fusion? This one you mentioned Ultimate Plus the other one you mention Fusion. When did you get it put on the car because the Fusion infused PPF is fairly recent and definitely shouldn't have yellowed in under a year and I would definitely put a warranty claim in for it regardless of which PPF you have.
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I don't see this claim on the Xpel website. Kindly provide the link.
https://www.xpel.com/ultimate-fusion...rotection-film
They use the wording "hydrophobic top-coat" in their description of their new Ultimate Fusion PPF product. IMHO, there is still a difference between simply using this product vs. adding a few coats of ceramic on top of it.
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They use the wording "hydrophobic top-coat" in their description of their new Ultimate Fusion PPF product. IMHO, there is still a difference between simply using this product vs. adding a few coats of ceramic on top of it.
Look under Ultimate Fusion Signature Features. Hydrophobic Properties, Provides Protection and Improves Surface Clearity their descriptions are everything a Ceramic Coating does. Their Ultimate Plus is already Self-Healing.
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They use the wording "hydrophobic top-coat" in their description of their new Ultimate Fusion PPF product. IMHO, there is still a difference between simply using this product vs. adding a few coats of ceramic on top of it.
Look under Ultimate Fusion Signature Features. Hydrophobic Properties, Provides Protection and Improves Surface Clearity their descriptions are everything a Ceramic Coating does. Their Ultimate Plus is already Self-Healing.
I saw this and if true they would be eliminating the need to apply a ceramic coating. I wonder what the difference in the price is between these two PPF products?
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Do you have Ultimate Plus or Ultimate Fusion? This one you mentioned Ultimate Plus the other one you mention Fusion. When did you get it put on the car because the Fusion infused PPF is fairly recent and definitely shouldn't have yellowed in under a year and I would definitely put a warranty claim in for it regardless of which PPF you have.
Sorry but I never mentioned anything about Fusion ad I have Ultimate Plus on mine.
Yes, I know the warranty is 10 years but I don't have time to get it done at the moment. Plus most likely end up with the similar results (based on my researches).
If anyone have doubts about PPF yellowing (slight tint), find any white cars with PPF and see for yourself. I think it is more noticeable on my car because Alpine White is almost like Pure White. That being said, it is still worth it for me due to the shifty roads here in CA.
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Love the info! After looking at a few cars with the wraps in person and watching tons of comparison videos, I'm going with the XPEL Ultimate.

Essentially, the wrap is to protect the clear coat/paint, and I have every intention of maintaining exterior care on the vehicle, so the need for Hydrophobic properties are not of use to me as the vehicle is in the garage 99% of the time when not being driven.

The self healing properties, works decently well, but not against major damage or dents, in which case it loses it's purpose.

So the justification is essentially, "Do I want water beading included in the wrap or can I maintain the vehicle myself?" Answer was obvious. Will spend the other $3,000 on some parts instead.

Thanks all for the input, much appreciated!
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Love the info! After looking at a few cars with the wraps in person and watching tons of comparison videos, I'm going with the XPEL Ultimate.

Essentially, the wrap is to protect the clear coat/paint, and I have every intention of maintaining exterior care on the vehicle, so the need for Hydrophobic properties are not of use to me as the vehicle is in the garage 99% of the time when not being driven.

The self healing properties, works decently well, but not against major damage or dents, in which case it loses it's purpose.

So the justification is essentially, "Do I want water beading included in the wrap or can I maintain the vehicle myself?" Answer was obvious. Will spend the other $3,000 on some parts instead.

Thanks all for the input, much appreciated!
Great decision! Just spend $150 on Kamikaze Film Coating and apply it yourself. My buddy uses this on his clients' cars and the water beads are incredible and seem to last a long time.
https://www.esotericcarcare.com/kami...face-coat-3-0/
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