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      08-06-2022, 08:41 AM   #1057
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No one is buying a Corvette when they can afford a Ferrari. Maybe 0.1% of the population would choose a Z06 over a 458/488 etc.

Corvette's are just not special cars. They are associated with people with a mid life crisis.

Corvette bro in this thread is hilarious
No one chooses between a Corvette and an exotic the likes of a Ferrari/Lamborghini/McLaren. However, some people who already own one or several exotics could still consider getting a C8 Z06 as their daily commuter. I know I would rather have a Z06 than a Carrera S (just as an example).
I've only driven a C8 once and would not want that as my daily. Again, I drove one for 20 minutes and it didn't not seem that good for everyday use.
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Are you guys really still arguing over this? Neither side has convinced the other side in weeks.
Imagine people on the internet getting mad someone they do not know is calling the C8Z GM's first supercar LOL.
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      08-06-2022, 09:42 AM   #1059
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You don't buy the stingray to say I have the stingray. You don't buy a plane ass 911 if you can afford the 4 or 4 S?
I resemble that remark. I specifically wanted 2S cos i don't want AWD on my dang sports car
It's ok to want to go slower:-) Lol. Just kidding
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LMAO! I've owned a few Vettes.
all well and good, then you should know of the evolutional improvement over the years ! FWIW, I've owned them for over 45 years, probably before you were born !

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The Vette has had performance numbers better than some cars that cost a lot more for a long time. Now the Z actually costs what some of these exotics can be had for. No longer a "bargain". No longer America's affordable sports car.
Really ??? I'm curious, what exotic can be had for barely over 100k ??
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Really ??? I'm curious, what exotic can be had for barely over 100k ??
You can get a Lotus Emira. I guess it’s ok to call it an exotic…
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Really ??? I'm curious, what exotic can be had for barely over 100k ??
Pfff. Forget 100k. Make it 125k and there is still no answer besides the upcoming C8Z. But AGAIN we have to see the performance data otherwise it's just a hyped up version of the stingray with an incredible engine.

But right now, from what we know SO FAR, the C8Z IS the car to get. Well if you can.

670hp, DCT, mid engine, widebody, exotic looks, V8 NA engine that sounds like exotic, backed by a full warranty.

Call it 125k and there is still nothing on the market.

You have yoyo's paying 140k for an M4 CSL.

Ding dong's paying 90-100k for hellcats.

But at 106k, GM's first supercar and people say it's a failure

Can't wait to make everyone drool when i get mine.
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You can get a Lotus Emira. I guess it’s ok to call it an exotic…
have you ever sat in or driven a lotus? they are more comparable to a BRZ, just with a british price tag and british reliability. but they need a japanese engine. there's a reason they are constantly on the brink of bankruptcy. no one buys them.
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Sad, but true. I had a c7Z06 when i was 28, and it was a great car. Fast, and reliable. It's sad that many people wont give the Corvette a chance simply because it's a "chevy" .. get off the high horse.

Too many cars out there to drive, and own, not enough time. The Z's have always been fast, and the C8Z will been no exception. It's going to slap alot of supercars around and have reliability and low maintenance to boot. But it still isn't a supercar. It's just as fast (or) faster than some...
I don't care how fast it is Corvettes are not special cars and never will be. It's for people who can't afford Ferrari's
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You have yoyo's paying 140k for an M4 CSL.
hey. woah there.
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      08-06-2022, 03:49 PM   #1066
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have you ever sat in or driven a lotus? they are more comparable to a BRZ, just with a british price tag and british reliability. but they need a japanese engine. there's a reason they are constantly on the brink of bankruptcy. no one buys them.

LOL And that's why they're going full EV sooner than later. It's the only way for them.

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hey. woah there.
That's why when it comes to value for performance, it's hard to take this forum seriously. Everyone has their opinions of course but some of the reasoning spewed in this thread has been in the fucking basement. Makes zero sense. Garbage. Basura.

I get it that not everyone has a thing for corvettes. Whether they don't like the brand, don't like the owners, don't like the way they look or any of that stuff. But the car proves itself over and over and that's why people buy them. Corvettes have always offered an insane package in one for an affordable price.

ANd with the C8Z, GM's first supercar, it will do it again, at a great price point.
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I don't care how fast it is Corvettes are not special cars and never will be. It's for people who can't afford Ferrari's
I would consider the LT6 very special. Put it right up their with any high revving engine from overseas. Where did Ferrari get with their NA V8 in 458, 597hp in the Speciale. Ferrari is generous with their hp claims too. The 670hp NA V8 LT6 with 8600 redline, is no joke. Potential to go down as one of, if not the best mass produced V8's ever made.
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No one is buying a Corvette when they can afford a Ferrari. Maybe 0.1% of the population would choose a Z06 over a 458/488 etc.

Corvette's are just not special cars. They are associated with people with a mid life crisis.

Corvette bro in this thread is hilarious
Really? I could afford to spend a few hundred thousand on a car. I have no idea why in the hell I would though. I love cars but frankly if I’m buying a Ferrari I’m clearing multiple millions annually not 500 to million which is frankly more than enough to afford a Ferrari.
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No one is buying a Corvette when they can afford a Ferrari. Maybe 0.1% of the population would choose a Z06 over a 458/488 etc.

Corvette's are just not special cars. They are associated with people with a mid life crisis.

Corvette bro in this thread is hilarious
Really? I could afford to spend a few hundred thousand on a car. I have no idea why in the hell I would though. I love cars but frankly if I'm buying a Ferrari I'm clearing multiple millions annually not 500 to million which is frankly more than enough to afford a Ferrari.
I just need to kick the hookers and drugs and I will have all sorts of spending money🤣🤪😂
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I just need to kick the hookers and drugs and I will have all sorts of spending money🤣🤪😂
Ehh not saying a Ferrari and corvette are comparable - they aren’t (although personally I’m more a lambo guy). BUT to say if you can afford one or not the other is an asinine assertion. When I’m 55-60 maybe but right now at the ripe old age of 38 I’d rather invest and compound for a few more years.

Just thought it was a stupid point.
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all well and good, then you should know of the evolutional improvement over the years ! FWIW, I've owned them for over 45 years, probably before you were born !



Really ??? I'm curious, what exotic can be had for barely over 100k ??
Thanks, dad. I was unaware of what has been going on. Get over yourself
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Really? I could afford to spend a few hundred thousand on a car. I have no idea why in the hell I would though. I love cars but frankly if I’m buying a Ferrari I’m clearing multiple millions annually not 500 to million which is frankly more than enough to afford a Ferrari.
LOL justification.

As someone who has had Vettes and is buying a C8Z, if I could afford a $300k car, I would skip the Vette & not think twice
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I would consider the LT6 very special. Put it right up their with any high revving engine from overseas. Where did Ferrari get with their NA V8 in 458, 597hp in the Speciale. Ferrari is generous with their hp claims too. The 670hp NA V8 LT6 with 8600 redline, is no joke. Potential to go down as one of, if not the best mass produced V8's ever made.
Yea, but most of the rest of the car is not, it's same as base C8 so there's that.

LOL @ anyone thinking GM/CHevy is now suddenly upscale or special.

Ford already did FPC in the GT350 too. GM copied the 458...a car no longer made.
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have you ever sat in or driven a lotus? they are more comparable to a BRZ, just with a british price tag and british reliability. but they need a japanese engine. there's a reason they are constantly on the brink of bankruptcy. no one buys them.
THe Emira or another Lotus? A good friend owned an Exige. You know, one of the ones with a reliable Toyota engine in it. He never had any problems with the car & I loved driving it
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LOL justification.

As someone who has had Vettes and is buying a C8Z, if I could afford a $300k car, I would skip the Vette & not think twice
That’s you. My point was not everybody thinks that way. I wouldn’t buy a car at that price point until I was over 1.5 million in income annually, if then to be honest. I’d much rather build the passive income now. Even the last $80k car - which I paid cash for - I only did because of the fact manuals are passing more and more quickly. Otherwise I’d put it off for a few more years.

And to make it more blunt around justification I could walk out and buy that car in cash right now but frankly $300k invested at this stage of my young life brings me $900k in 15 years, and a fair amount of passive cash flow income between now and then and even more after the 15 years.

And the whole point is at end of day if I wanted to retire at 50 I could and not change my lifestyle.

Ultimately while you may be willing to spend the money not everybody is as willing to. It doesn’t exactly take a huge annual income to afford a 300k car if you are willing to mortgage some of your retirement.
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Yea, but most of the rest of the car is not, it's same as base C8 so there's that.

LOL @ anyone thinking GM/CHevy is now suddenly upscale or special.

Ford already did FPC in the GT350 too. GM copied the 458...a car no longer made.
The voodoo in GT350 isn’t your traditional FPC like Ferrari V8 or LT6. Voodoo has a weird up/down/up/down crankshaft. Which has led to some reliability issues. Reason why it doesn’t sound European as well. You say copying the 458 like it is a bad thing. 458 is a car many wish still existed. Unfortunately, NA is a dying breed. GM is offering a world leading NA V8 engine. More hp than any current V10 Huracan model.
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