07-15-2021, 09:49 AM | #1 |
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BMW 2 Series Shipment from 2014-2021
I went back and looked at the group reports for North American since 2014 and these are the results.
2014- 7345 (includes some 1 series so estimate 6500) 2015- 13020 2016- 15519 2017- 11737 2018- 9208 2019- 8015 2020- 5000 estimate (covid and grand coupe introduced in shipment number) 2021- 2500 estimate (had to order one to get one) Total- 71,500 (I assume these include Canada). Looks like a standard bell curve with a ramp up years 2-4 and then slow death.
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Smaller numbers than I thought of for the world market.
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This is the worldwide 2-series production from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_2_Series_(F22):
2014 41,038 2015 157,144 2016 196,183 2017 181,113 2018 152,215 North America accounts for somewhere around 8% of sales of the model, although these numbers do include F87, F45 & F46, too. Last edited by aerobod; 07-15-2021 at 01:27 PM.. |
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07-15-2021, 01:24 PM | #5 |
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I rarely see other 235/40 in my area, way more 228s but even those are not common.
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2a) 2020 Total - 13,209 2b) 2021 (Jan-Jun) - 9,340 2c) This brings US total sales through 6-2021 to 87,393 Source: https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/bmw-2-...es-usa-canada/ BMW 2-SERIES CANADA SALES REPORTS – BY YEAR 2014 - 883 2015 - 1,703 2016 - 2,091 2017 - 1,929 2018 - 1,827 2019 - 1,202 2020 - 1,357 2021 - 1,177 - through June Total 12,169
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07-15-2021, 04:05 PM | #9 |
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Wikipedia says F45 and F46 make up the vast majority of worldwide sales for 2 series so the F22 and F23 are no where near those. Even Mustang and Camaro sales suck in the US and the Camaro is DOA with no new one even in the works.
It seems strange that BMW made the 2 bigger, its closest competition in the market is basically the 4 series now. Why get a 4 when the 2 is over $10K less, same engine, same interior and interior size isn’t different enough to matter.
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My guess is that 2 Series buyers differ significantly from 4 Series buyers. True or not, I have no idea what that difference might be. For example, is it monthly payments? Maybe. Is it how you will look when you step out of your car? Maybe. Is it what the cool kids will say when they've heard what you've chosen? Maybe. Etc...Etc...Blah...Blah...Yada...Yada...Same-o-Same-o, right. FWIW, after two decades thinking of myself as a car guy, I gained a wonderful perspective in 1996 from a then-65-year old woman. At that time, she, a woman who could afford any motor vehicle of her choosing, was trying to decide between a Mitsubishi and a Cadillac. She wanted me to help her decide. I mean, what can ya do, right!
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An example of a BMW production news release is here: https://www.bloomberg.com/press-rele...-sales-results The manufacturer releases is where goodcarbadcar pulls data from. You'll note that M cars are not broken out separately in BMW's official quarterly production data releases and those units are included in the corresponding model line. My understanding from another BMW enthusiast forum, where some production data is posted upon request, is that BMW doesn't make trim level production counts available until some time after production of a model has ended. That means we won't see M2 Comp figures out for a few more months as production just ended. M2 OG figures are already out there as are those for the M2CS. A link to the M2 OG production info is here: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1404565 I requested and received, from a different BMW enthusiast forum, US production counts for the M235 and M235 convertible in RWD configurations and with a breakdown by transmission. Those counts are as follows: 2014-2016 BMW M235i Coupe (1J73) - NA 4,833 sport auto 1,773 manual 2015-2016 BMW M235i Convertible (1M13) - NA 1,878 sport auto 336 manual I didn't have the stones to ask the person for the full run down for each trim, body style, and drive line (rwd/awd) for the 2 series as there were literally 28 variants, and even more if considering engine emissions. The poor soul would have likely told me to pound sand if I did. Since we also have pre and post LCI cars, there are: 4 M2 variants 4 228 variants 4 m235 variants 8 230 variants (4 pre LCI and 4 post) 8 M240 variants (4 pre LCI and 4 post) Other forum members asked for information on: the 2017 M240I, which is the pre-LCI car and therefore has been out of production for some time. That response indicated a total of 1431 cars were built for North America (US and Canada) of the 2017 BMW M240i Coupe (2G13) were built. the 228i 2014-2016 BMW 228i Coupe (1F53) a total of 5267 North American units 2015-2016 BMW 228i Coupe Automatic (1F93) a total of 4030 North American units Last edited by peteyrx7; 07-16-2021 at 01:00 AM.. |
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I didn't think either car was a wise choice and chose not to help her decide. She went with the Cadillac and got rid of it a few months later.
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I missed if anyone captured manual v automatic.
Really curious how rare my manual F23 is. certainly was not easy to find.
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I feel like some of it is dealer support and marketing by both dealers and BMW. When it first came out, there was a lot of amazing marketing (maybe not dealer support tho). Videos w/ the car drifting, racing personalities, etc. Rhys Millen, etc.
But go to buy one and there'd be lucky to have any inventory in stock. Same throughout early and also later years. Last 3 years, barely a peep from BMW marketing. and I think it shows in the numbers. IT's been living purely on enthusiast life support and the odd youtube video |
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In my case, for example, the 4 Series is almost a complete black box to me. All I know about them is what I've read here when other members mention them in passing. My focus is the lightest higher-performing BMWs, and I wish my M240i was a four-door hatchback. But you can't have everything, right. I was instructing at a BMW driving event a couple of years ago and while talking with the classroom instructor mentioned something about my car. He hadn't seen the car and asked what it was. When I said "An M240i.", he asked "What's an M240i?" I was surprised and just said "A 6-cylinder 2 Series." If I'd gone into detail, his logical response would have been "Why didn't you just buy an M2?" Speaking of de-badging, I took a de-badged Nissan Sentra into a body shop for a minor repair back in the 80s. After the estimator had walked around the car twice looking for some indication of what it was (it was a new model at the time), he said "I give up - what is it?" That one was a big win!
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F22 was also very rare with a manual because again it was only available with the rwd cars. You could however get a 6mt in the rwd 228 and 230. I suspect that the m240 production numbers are smaller than the M235 and that take rate for 6mt went down after the M2 launch. We'll hopefully know the answer with certainty in the coming months. |
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Since the M2 was marked up severely or all the allocations where taken, most that when in to get an actual M2, just settled for a highly discounted, available M235i instead. Hence the rise in taker-rate for that model year. By 2017, the M2 market had stabilized. |
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