THE LARGEST BMW 2-SERIES FORUM ON THE PLANET
2Addicts
2Addicts
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
2Addicts | BMW 2-Series forum Technical Topics N20 (228i) / B46 (230i) Engine, Transmission, Exhaust, Tuning 2016 220i to 228i power?

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-04-2018, 05:06 PM   #1
CynicalRobot
Registered
4
Rep
4
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: London

iTrader: (0)

Question 2016 220i to 228i power?

Hey All, i just signed up here so looking forward to getting involved in the community!

I am looking at getting either a 220i or 228i both with the N20 Engine.


Over here in the UK you can get a lot more optional extras for your money when it comes to 220i v 228i on the used card market.


My question is if i get a 220i with the 135 kW (181 hp) / 270 N⋅m (199 lbft) version of the N20 is it possible to upgrade the power to that of the 228i which has 180 kW (241 hp) / 350 Nm (258 lbft) ?


If it is possible... would a computer nerd like me be able to do it? or does it involved changing something mechanical like the turbo?


Thanks!
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2018, 09:51 AM   #2
SteveInfante
NewFinishColumbia/detailer
SteveInfante's Avatar
United_States
609
Rep
2,096
Posts

Drives: 2015 F31 xDrive
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Columbia, SC

iTrader: (0)

Just buy the 228i, it's way more involved between the two motors that you would think.
__________________
328 F31 xDrive/OSM/Venetian Luxury Line/Cold Weather/Premium/Driving Assist/Nav/Tech "Golden Goose"
78' Honda CB400A project
http://www.instagram.com/steve_inf31
Appreciate 0
      07-05-2018, 04:41 PM   #3
CynicalRobot
Registered
4
Rep
4
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: London

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveInfante View Post
Just buy the 228i, it's way more involved between the two motors that you would think.
Thank you for the honest reply fella have a good weekend!
Appreciate 1
      07-09-2018, 12:44 PM   #4
pungky29
Registered
0
Rep
3
Posts

Drives: BME E36 323i M52 B25
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Jakarta Indonesia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CynicalRobot View Post
Hey All, i just signed up here so looking forward to getting involved in the community!

I am looking at getting either a 220i or 228i both with the N20 Engine.


Over here in the UK you can get a lot more optional extras for your money when it comes to 220i v 228i on the used card market.


My question is if i get a 220i with the 135 kW (181 hp) / 270 N⋅m (199 lbft) version of the N20 is it possible to upgrade the power to that of the 228i which has 180 kW (241 hp) / 350 Nm (258 lbft) ?


If it is possible... would a computer nerd like me be able to do it? or does it involved changing something mechanical like the turbo?


Thanks!
AC Schnitzer offers power upgrade by replacing your 220i ECU with the performance tuned ECU which is able to increase from 184HP to 245HP similar to 228i power.
Here is the link:

https://preisliste.ac-schnitzer.de/acs_kpl/hp_kpl/bmw_engl/preisliste_ausgabe_motor_daten_engl.php?Modell=2er-F22/F23&Teile_Nr=110082360&ID_NR=12759

BR
Appreciate 0
      07-09-2018, 06:47 PM   #5
hwntime
Captain
hwntime's Avatar
277
Rep
823
Posts

Drives: F22 Raptor
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: PNW

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by pungky29 View Post
AC Schnitzer offers power upgrade by replacing your 220i ECU with the performance tuned ECU which is able to increase from 184HP to 245HP similar to 228i power.
Here is the link:

https://preisliste.ac-schnitzer.de/a...60&ID_NR=12759

BR
So can AC Schnitz take an N20 and push it to N55 numbers?
Appreciate 0
      07-10-2018, 12:00 PM   #6
SteveInfante
NewFinishColumbia/detailer
SteveInfante's Avatar
United_States
609
Rep
2,096
Posts

Drives: 2015 F31 xDrive
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Columbia, SC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hwntime View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by pungky29 View Post
AC Schnitzer offers power upgrade by replacing your 220i ECU with the performance tuned ECU which is able to increase from 184HP to 245HP similar to 228i power.
Here is the link:

https://preisliste.ac-schnitzer.de/a...38;ID_NR=12759

BR
So can AC Schnitz take an N20 and push it to N55 numbers?
Yes but then again so can a lot of other tuning peeps for less money.
__________________
328 F31 xDrive/OSM/Venetian Luxury Line/Cold Weather/Premium/Driving Assist/Nav/Tech "Golden Goose"
78' Honda CB400A project
http://www.instagram.com/steve_inf31
Appreciate 0
      08-06-2018, 07:08 AM   #7
Dexter23
New Member
5
Rep
5
Posts

Drives: 220i
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CynicalRobot View Post
Hey All, i just signed up here so looking forward to getting involved in the community!

I am looking at getting either a 220i or 228i both with the N20 Engine.


Over here in the UK you can get a lot more optional extras for your money when it comes to 220i v 228i on the used card market.


My question is if i get a 220i with the 135 kW (181 hp) / 270 N⋅m (199 lbft) version of the N20 is it possible to upgrade the power to that of the 228i which has 180 kW (241 hp) / 350 Nm (258 lbft) ?


If it is possible... would a computer nerd like me be able to do it? or does it involved changing something mechanical like the turbo?


Thanks!

A JB4 should get you around +80whp on a 220i N20, so you get more power than the 228i in stock form. Email the JB4 shop in the UK, and they will send you their dyno results.

The installation is simple for someone with a little bit of technical common sense.

I have this setup on my 220i, the results are very real. The above numbers have been verified by a couple of independent sources, but some people may say that a tuned 220i will not drive as well as a stock 228i - this is up to you. Personally, I think that a 220i + £700 for a JB4 with 260whp is super value for money.

Check out this threads for more details:
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15536

The above thread talks about the 320i, not 220i, but they both have the same drivetrain.

It's worth noting that the 220i N20 engine has different pistons to a 228i N20 engine - the former runs a compression ration of 11:1, and the latter runs 10:1. You have to adjust for this when comparing the two, and this is also why it is not possible to upgrade a 220i to be a 228i with software only.

I have no affiliation with Burger Motorsports, but the JB4 is really the only sensible option for a 220i, other than an ECU remap. I've tried other piggyback devices and none even come close.

In case you're interested, the guys at Burger Motorsports have apparently tuned the N20 engine to beyond 300hp using more advanced modifications like WMI, etc. that the JB4 supports.

Hope this helps, and best of luck.
Appreciate 0
      08-05-2023, 08:14 AM   #8
oremag2014
Private
43
Rep
66
Posts

Drives: BMW 220i
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Panama

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dexter23 View Post
A JB4 should get you around +80whp on a 220i N20, so you get more power than the 228i in stock form. Email the JB4 shop in the UK, and they will send you their dyno results.

The installation is simple for someone with a little bit of technical common sense.

I have this setup on my 220i, the results are very real. The above numbers have been verified by a couple of independent sources, but some people may say that a tuned 220i will not drive as well as a stock 228i - this is up to you. Personally, I think that a 220i + £700 for a JB4 with 260whp is super value for money.

Check out this threads for more details:
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15536

The above thread talks about the 320i, not 220i, but they both have the same drivetrain.

It's worth noting that the 220i N20 engine has different pistons to a 228i N20 engine - the former runs a compression ration of 11:1, and the latter runs 10:1. You have to adjust for this when comparing the two, and this is also why it is not possible to upgrade a 220i to be a 228i with software only.

I have no affiliation with Burger Motorsports, but the JB4 is really the only sensible option for a 220i, other than an ECU remap. I've tried other piggyback devices and none even come close.

In case you're interested, the guys at Burger Motorsports have apparently tuned the N20 engine to beyond 300hp using more advanced modifications like WMI, etc. that the JB4 supports.

Hope this helps, and best of luck.

On what map and mods? LOL 80whp just the jb4?
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:47 PM.




2addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST