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      10-04-2018, 04:17 PM   #45
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What M-performance bits are on it? I don't see anything as far as the cosmetic stuff is concerned. Does it perhaps have the MPE exhaust? Assuming that it really does have the MP LSD, that costs ~$2300. The MPE is ~$1k.
0ZA5 M Perf Exhaust w Rear Diffuser
0Z1T Chrome Exahaust Tips
0Z3N Front Splitter - Black
0ZTM Tier 2
0Z06 Black Kidney Grilles
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0Z7A Limited Slip Differential

It has a few goodies!
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      10-04-2018, 04:23 PM   #46
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I don't see any M Performance bit of on it. How do you know it has the LSD?
I called the dealership and they sent me a screen shot of the optional equipment it came with?
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      10-04-2018, 04:34 PM   #47
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OP, I daily drove an F30 3 Series auto for three years. I then drove a M235i auto for three years. I just got a M240 6-speed for my DD. So I've got all the bases covered here. The 235/240 is a great DD. It's fast/sporty when ya want it to be, docile and compliant when ya don't. Not as big as the 3, maybe a tick less cushy, but certainly handles better. Get the M235/40 and you won't regret it.

BUT, if you're not in stop-n-go traffic everyday, perhaps you should consider a stick. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. The drivers at the BMW Performance Center thanked me for buying what they call "The Millennial Anti-Theft Device". I forgot how much I like to drive until I got the stick. I'm not trying to re-ignite the Auto vs Stick debate, I'm just suggesting you think about it. To each his own.

By the way, my brother daily drove a 5 series, saw my original M235 auto, bought an M235 stick, and LOVES his. I'm telling ya, the stick is the sh*t in this car. Good luck with your choice. Let us know what ya decide to do.
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BUT, if you're not in stop-n-go traffic everyday, perhaps you should consider a stick. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. The drivers at the BMW Performance Center thanked me for buying what they call "The Millennial Anti-Theft Device". I forgot how much I like to drive until I got the stick. I'm not trying to re-ignite the Auto vs Stick debate, I'm just suggesting you think about it. To each his own.

I'm telling ya, the stick is the sh*t in this car. Good luck with your choice. Let us know what ya decide to do.
I've thought about a manual. The only reason I bought the 6AT in the E92 is in case the wife had to drive it. She hates how low it is and all of the rules I have. Stay away from curbs. Don't pull in too far. Approach driveways slow.
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      10-04-2018, 07:27 PM   #50
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I've thought about a manual. The only reason I bought the 6AT in the E92 is in case the wife had to drive it. She hates how low it is and all of the rules I have. Stay away from curbs. Don't pull in too far. Approach driveways slow.
I had the same issues and discussions with the wife. I finally put my foot down, stuck out my chin, and said, "Damnit, I'm the man of the house, and I'm getting a stick shift whether you like it or not! Now gimme back my Man Card!!"

I've gotten used to the doghouse. It's not so bad if you give it a chance.
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0ZA5 M Perf Exhaust w Rear Diffuser
0Z1T Chrome Exahaust Tips
0Z3N Front Splitter - Black
0ZTM Tier 2
0Z06 Black Kidney Grilles
0Z2F BMW M Performance Steering Wheel <-- heard this gets discolored from body oil
0Z7A Limited Slip Differential

It has a few goodies!
You must not have linked the right car in your post or the dealer has their cars confused. The car you linked doesn't show any of those items listed (other than the differential which doesn't show up in the pictures). It has the standard non-MPE rear diffuser with the standard exhaust tips, the normal leather steering wheel, no front splitter, and no black kidney grills.

Here is a picture of my car for reference, which has the front splitter and black kidney grills:

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Here is a picture of a different car with the m-performance steering wheel, which is alcantara:

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      10-04-2018, 09:54 PM   #52
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I called the dealership and they sent me a screen shot of the optional equipment it came with?
You better make sure because they're yanking your chain on the other M Performance parts they're claiming. None of them are on the car.

Put the car on a lift and rotate the rear wheel. If the opposite wheel turns in the same direction then it has the LSD. Very very very few M235s have the LSD and most that were ordered that way have lots of other M Performance parts.
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My M240i w/ a Dinan Stage 1 gets 26.6 MPG around town. The M235i should provide about the same MPG's and fun factor.
I'm getting around 18.9 MPG with my stock M240i at least according to the computer. So I must be a real lead foot
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      10-04-2018, 10:30 PM   #54
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I called the dealership and they sent me a screen shot of the optional equipment it came with?
If you haven’t got the VIN already, have them provide it (last 7 digits/characters is all that is needed, you can then use a VIN decoder such as this one to show the options: https://decoder.bvzine.com
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      10-04-2018, 10:41 PM   #55
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Any 2'er is a great DD. You owe it to yourself to try a 228/230 as well. Plenty of power for anything but all out racing, and better weight balance, mileage, and cost. And the x-drive is, for me, very performance-oriented. My first AWD performance car, but I'm hooked on the awd dynamic, it is very conducive to balanced 4 wheel drift.
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      10-04-2018, 10:52 PM   #56
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You must not have linked the right car in your post or the dealer has their cars confused. The car you linked doesn't show any of those items listed (other than the differential which doesn't show up in the pictures). It has the standard non-MPE rear diffuser with the standard exhaust tips, the normal leather steering wheel, no front splitter, and no black kidney grills.

Here is a picture of my car for reference, which has the front splitter and black kidney grills:

Attachment 1911384

Here is a picture of a different car with the m-performance steering wheel, which is alcantara:

Attachment 1911383
https://www.bmwbellevue.com/used/BMW/2015-BMW-M235-0d1ea8fd0a0d04fe62682839048be6fc.htm

This is the car
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      10-04-2018, 11:14 PM   #57
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https://www.bmwbellevue.com/used/BMW/2015-BMW-M235-0d1ea8fd0a0d04fe62682839048be6fc.htm

This is the car
Do you have the car fax ?
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      10-05-2018, 01:13 AM   #58
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https://www.bmwbellevue.com/used/BMW/2015-BMW-M235-0d1ea8fd0a0d04fe62682839048be6fc.htm

This is the car
That makes more sense, the car you linked before was from was at BMW of Salem.

Great color combo! I would ask them why it's not CPOd, for that money it definitely should be. Other than that if everything checks out, looks like a great example.
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      10-05-2018, 01:15 AM   #59
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All three pics of the front end seem to show an uneven gap between the hood and the bumper. I'd be sure to inspect this closely in person to see if there's an issue, or it's attributable merely to image distortion.
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The service history of this vehicle shows four times the car was aligned, as well as a single tire and some exterior trim being replaced. Hmmmm...

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...1J7C54FV358793
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      10-05-2018, 05:09 AM   #61
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4 times alignment is troubling, as is trim. hit something?
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I am going to let my 235i go soon. Best car Ive ever owned. Totally trouble free. Its got the dinan exhaust and intake...63k miles for a 2015. I will get a cpo m3 or a new m2 comp when they start showing up. Its a great DD but once I hit 50k I bought a honda fit to go with this just to take some of the pressure off of it out of warranty. Cant go wrong with the 235/240 for reliability and fun at such a great price point.
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4 times alignment is troubling, as is trim. hit something?
I'm not sure I would jump to that conclusion, but frequent alignments could also mean a car that is tracked quite often and maybe went off the track a few times. Decal replacement could be understandable as that car has a bunch of M Performance side/rocker stripes on it which could be peeling. The dealer should have more detailed maintenance history than what's on the Carfax and why the decal was replaced.

The more troubling sign to me is that the dealer didn't CPO a car that is prime candidate to be CPOd...
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You should have a different BMW dealer run the VIN for you. They have an internal system it's like CarFax on crack - a lot more information.
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I'm not sure I would jump to that conclusion, but frequent alignments could also mean a car that is tracked quite often and maybe went off the track a few times. Decal replacement could be understandable as that car has a bunch of M Performance side/rocker stripes on it which could be peeling. The dealer should have more detailed maintenance history than what's on the Carfax and why the decal was replaced.

The more troubling sign to me is that the dealer didn't CPO a car that is prime candidate to be CPOd...
Yep, the lack of CPO is a red flag. The car looks quite dirty as well.
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All three pics of the front end seem to show an uneven gap between the hood and the bumper. I'd be sure to inspect this closely in person to see if there's an issue, or it's attributable merely to image distortion.
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The service history of this vehicle shows four times the car was aligned, as well as a single tire and some exterior trim being replaced. Hmmmm...

https://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistor...1J7C54FV358793
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4 times alignment is troubling, as is trim. hit something?
Apologies if I've misunderstood this thread without re-reading it all, but if this white car is also the one with the repeated alignments, I'd be wary of it. The hood is mis-aligned to the front fascia for height and also right-to-left. Those gaps on either side are unequal. A front end hit might have resulted in this bodywork, and also possibly explain the need for alignments if suspension/floor pan/engine box damage occurred.
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