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Always thought the same. Just it seems it easier for BMW these days.
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I see this is turning into a Dinan discussion haha.
If warranty is your #1 priority than Dinan is your only option. Show me some dynojet dynos that show the power gains they advertise. I've yet to see one. All the #'s from them are at the crank also. Also B58 has some fueling limitations not seen before. Something with the DME and fuel volume. So some of your expectation might not be met until they crack it. Check n54tech for details.
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I should just create a warranty company for jb4, catastrophic failure rate on any piggy back is so low you could prob. sell it for $500. I doubt it is any higher than stock.
I never take anything off. If its small, dealer will usually fix it, they get paid as well. If it is larger then it gets bumped up to the regional guy to approve anyway. If you modded oh well that's the way it goes. Only warranty I care about on the 2r is the climate control, electrical, and interior. I just leave a note on dash, jb4 set to map 0, and DO NOT FU**ING WASH! Who is running posi tap? the firmware is like 2 years old. A piggyback could never brick a dme, it just modifies i/o signal at the sensor/controller , hence piggyback. But good luck winning that argument. |
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Not to continue threadjacking with respect to Dinan, but does it really matter if the Dinan tune is installed at an "authorized" Dinan dealer? The closest one to me is a good hour away and since it's a dealer, they wanted to charge me obscene labor costs up front irrespective of the actual amount of time it took to install the product, and at a rate that far exceeds what other work would have cost.
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[QUOTE=Amack;21246711]Interesting, you think they are maybe more easy going in aus?
Maybe or maybe not, yes warranty is warranty but in certain countries are not as anal like BMWNA. |
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I've got the old style JB4 w/ posi-tap connectors. Should I be concerned at all? Or encouraged ?... So confused, now lol.. There's a reason I left it stock and have had the piggy back waiting for FBO parts to accumulate. Now that I'm ready from a hardware perspective I'm concerned about this "Flagging" scenario which could void potential drivetrain warranty..
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I was dinan stage 3 - made less than 375, than i added a dp, i was around 390. I ripped the Dinan off, and went flash tune, with dp and im over 400 with 40lbs tq more than Dinan. Theres a whole thread of guys with m235s on stage 4, big turbos etc.. not even hitting 390 whp. I have all the dyno sheets and video to prove it. But by all means, believe the sales pitch. Bmw flags you with Dinan, but if theres an issue, they route it to Dinan to have them cover it. It's not that its allowed, or is covered under warranty.
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interesting... I didnt know that the Stock DME could record and save logs like that
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People think Dinan is affiliated w bmw, years back yes, they don't even get developmental cars, they have to buy them off the floor like everyone else. Company lost a lot of cred when Steve left. Just a 3rd party warranty really. I can see the attraction, plus when sold at dealer makes it easy for most. Resale is not so good either, the warranty does not transfer. |
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A friend of ours had stage 3 and had an issue, his car sat at bmw for 3 months while he paid for the rental car. 3rd party warranty... exactly what it is. The amount you pay for Dinan, and what you get out from it... your better off going a different route and just keeping some money aside for the What If Scenario. A JB4/flash tuned car with DP's will absolutely destroy a Dinan stage 4 car. I do still like there hard parts, FMIC, intake, springs etc...
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also My M235i stage 2 dinan 2 felt as fast as my 135i JB4 twin turbo. I think the word destroy is more like a tenth or 2 tenth a second. And I know from experience that i was very lucky with my 135i blowing 2 MAFS and 2 PUMA cases opened against me that post some VAG tool code deletions i didnt get caught. We could all totally save 2k and put it aside for when and if something goes wrong with an aftermarket tune, and when it does, my guess it will be about twice that cost.
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you have a downpipe which is probably another 12whp.
If you were to dyno it, id guess you are around 370whp. That m4, 470whp. If he added downpipes, 500whp. Theres no way ur car can keep up with it unless you only tried to run a block or two. Or you are awd and hooked while he was spinning. I wish the cars were faster, but they are not.
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