[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by bim2er

I believe a stock BMW S1000RR makes 193 HP our of 999cc, no doors, no roof, no turbo lag, no waiting! How insane is that!

Insane but it will not move a 3000+ pound car anywhere fast.

[Ramos]

Off topic but speaking of Beemers, and 1M colors, I just purchased a F800 GT in Valencia Orange !! That should keep me happy until the M2 comes out !!

[sebaflex]

seeing how the S55 engine in the M4 seems to be an evolution of the N54/N55 motors...I would love to see a reworked N20 for the M2. Imagine, the "S20" Turbocharged I-4 350hp and rev to 8k rpm. yes please.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by hector

poll needs another choice: 2.5ltr. inline 5 based on the new "b" architecture. i just don't think that 2.0ltrs. is enough in the milieu of the 135/235/1m while on the other hand 3.0ltrs. encroaches on the m3/m4 notwithstanding different states of tune. a high output 2.5 would easily distance itself from the mainstream 3ltr. mills while not threatening the m3/m4.

This is a bangin idea.

Why not-

[M3_WC]

Actually now seeing the S55 details how different it is from a N55. The M2 now makes a lot more sense with the N55 with a small power bump. Plus the emphasis on chassis/suspension tuning, EPS tuning, and lightweight materials.

[BimmerMat135]

S55 ''limited to 370hp'' with the exact same turbo,block and intercooler than the M3/M4.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by HBspeed

BMW should pull their head's out of their ass and offer us at least 1 naturally aspirated old school M car.

The M2 would be the perfect spot to stick a modern interpretation of the S54. I6, high revving, naturally aspirated. But alas it would cost too much since they could no longer share as much of the M engine with the non-M engines for cost savings.

0% chance of that. it's all about efficiency these days and it is guaranteed the next M2 will be turbocharged as it is definitely the most efficient way to extract power out of a block.

also a 0% chance to the guy who said they should do a "2.5L inline 5"....i think you're thinking of Audi!

[amdmaxx]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

Actually now seeing the S55 details how different it is from a N55. The M2 now makes a lot more sense with the N55 with a small power bump. Plus the emphasis on chassis/suspension tuning, EPS tuning, and lightweight materials.

Isn't n55 being replaced with 330-350hp engine that's yet to be announced? 335 m sport and m2 would be good candidates for it,
Detuned s55 would do!

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

0% chance of that. it's all about efficiency these days and it is guaranteed the next M2 will be turbocharged as it is definitely the most efficient way to extract power out of a block.

also a 0% chance to the guy who said they should do a "2.5L inline 5"....i think you're thinking of Audi!

What do you consider efficient? There are some really good normally aspirated 6-cylinders out there, that get good gas mileage.

It can be done. 991 S gets 19/27 mpg, that is bascially current 135i mpg.

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

What do you consider efficient? There are some really good normally aspirated 6-cylinders out there, that get good gas mileage.

It can be done. 991 S gets 19/27 mpg, that is bascially current 135i mpg.

they're aiming for much higher than that....I'm afraid. every few MPG matters in the current industry standard.

[Ramos]

Thought I'd bring this thread back from the dead with all the conversations going on around the M2 since the M235 reveal

[Jockey]

Well, if you look in the World Premiere Thread for the M235i, there's an article posted that has an interview with Mr. ///M himself and he said don't expect a 4-cylinder engine in a future M anytime soon.

So it's sounding like an I6 to me.

[Ramos]

Originally Posted by Jockey

Well, if you look in the World Premiere Thread for the M235i, there's an article posted that has an interview with Mr. ///M himself and he said don't expect a 4-cylinder engine in a future M anytime soon.

So it's sounding like an I6 to me.

Yeah but did you see the "logical" comment from Scott26 the other day in reference to a potential 4 cylinder motor? I don't think the decision has been made yet, either that or they are intentionally trying to keep us guessing.

Personally I would prefer an M235 over a 4 cylinder M2 because I want the more flexible engine given that the car would mostly be daily driven with the occasional track day or autocross

[Jockey]

Originally Posted by Ramos

Yeah but did you see the "logical" comment from Scott26 the other day in reference to a potential 4 cylinder motor? I don't think the decision has been made yet, either that or they are intentionally trying to keep us guessing.

Personally I would prefer an M235 over a 4 cylinder M2 because I want the more flexible engine given that the car would mostly be daily driven with the occasional track day or autocross

I'd rather see an I6 too. Unless BMW comes up with a way to surpass hp/liter that's in the CLA AMG to get the M2 hp over that of the M235i, I just don't see an I4 M2 happening.

And no offense to Scott, but when Dr. Nitschke himself says don't expect it, I won't. They gave us plenty of warning that the next M generation was going to be FI and not NA. I don't see why they're going to start planting false information now to trick us.

[Greenkirby21]

Instead of a highly boosted N26/N20,

What if BMW went the N54 route and made a 4 cylinder with 2 turbos?
Or what if they went ahead and put 2 twin scroll turbos haha

[ska///235i]

(E46 M3) inline 6 with 350 hp for me please

[BimmerMat135]

Just look at the stats in the post #1 BMW would shoot them self in the leg bringing a 4cyl in this car.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by Jockey

I'd rather see an I6 too. Unless BMW comes up with a way to surpass hp/liter that's in the CLA AMG to get the M2 hp over that of the M235i, I just don't see an I4 M2 happening.

And no offense to Scott, but when Dr. Nitschke himself says don't expect it, I won't. They gave us plenty of warning that the next M generation was going to be FI and not NA. I don't see why they're going to start planting false information now to trick us.

Dr Nitschke relates to a four cylinder not coming tomorrow , just as an M2 is not coming tomorrow.

But if they can get this four cylinder to make 360-380 PS why should it not be implemented into the M2?

Remember this? No more Dogmas.

[BMWJS]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Dr Nitschke relates to a four cylinder not coming tomorrow , just as an M2 is not coming tomorrow.

But if they can get this four cylinder to make 360-380 PS why should it not be implemented into the M2?

Remember this? No more Dogmas.

I posted a similar comment in another thread also but supposing they can get the target HP from a 4 cylinder, should they choose to do so? A 6 cylinder has many positive attributes such as smoothness, sound, less stress/maintenance and it seems that a great majority of those providing opinions desire a 6. Aside from the weight advantage of a 4, why would BMW deny the M2 of a 6?

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Dr Nitschke relates to a four cylinder not coming tomorrow , just as an M2 is not coming tomorrow.

But if they can get this four cylinder to make 360-380 PS why should it not be implemented into the M2?

Remember this? No more Dogmas.

Please read the poll result lot of people don`t want to see a 4cyl in this car why BMW want to insist on it?

A 4cyl will sound horrible, won`t be smooth, won't have such a nice flat torque curve, will probably get and higher turbo lag, will probably get long term reliability issues(if it does have 180-190hp/liter) and will probably use more fuel in the real world than a straight 6. For all of thoses reason I find the 4 cyl to be unacceptable in the M2 especially that this car won't sell cheapt. If BMW go ahead with this in the M2 that will be a complete deal breaker for me and for alot of person I would think.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Please read the poll result lot of people don`t want to see a 4cyl in this car why BMW want to insist on it?

A 4cyl will sound horrible, won`t be smooth, won't have such a nice flat torque curve, will probably get and higher turbo lag, will probably get long term reliability issues(if it does have 180-190hp/liter) and will probably use more fuel in the real world than a straight 6. For all of thoses reason I find the 4 cyl to be unacceptable in the M2 especially that this car won't sell cheapt. If BMW go ahead with this in the M2 that will be a complete deal breaker for me and for alot of person I would think.

Then buy an M4, just ignore all the E9x owners crying about the loss of their precious V8. I'd rather have an M2 that isn't just an M4Lite.

I'm sure BMW stays up late at night worrying about polls on car forums.

[KSAF]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

But if they can get this four cylinder to make 360-380 PS why should it not be implemented into the M2?

That's the way to go