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Even worse, the f10 m5 also used the s63tu engine and had only 552hp. Still waiting for my answer though, let me know when you have one, or feel free to move on. |
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After taking another look at your list on the front page does your info mean that the current 4 series ICE models including the M4 will be discontinued after this generation?
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Don't all versions of the G8X come with the S58B30T0? They range from 453hp in the M2, up through 550hp in the 3.0 CSL. Or 543 for the M3 CS, if we put the 3.0 off limits since it's not really a production car. 453-->543 is a 20% increase with just a factory tune.
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S58T is designed to produce in the neighborhood of 500hp. Used in M2, it is intentionally detuned to 453hp. And this sequence of events is the key difference from the dumb argument above: the more powerful original version is released first, and then it gets a less powerful version. So yeah, it's a 10% change but in the totally wrong direction. S58O, on the other hand, does indeed end up with a large jump (473hp->553hp), however, the 3.0 CSL is a unique hand-built car, and even if the engines are not hand-built (I wasn't following the PR too closely, not sure if this was discussed), BMW has certainly gone through a selection process for those 50 engines that is not, and can't reasonably be done for the regular manufacturing line production. |
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That will be confusing... Or maybe there will be no G45 iX3 and just the NA5 one? In that case, there will be two different X3 platforms, one NA5 (Neue Klasse?) and on G-series? I'm confused. ynguldyn ? |
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Definitely two different platforms in the same segment. This source is possibly wrong about G45 iX3. I should understand this better soon.
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Love this Thread and been following a while now. Thank you so much for all the information ynguldyn
I hope you can answer this because i am interested in the new 1 series. Will the F70 be a new model or will it be some sort of bigger facelift of the F40? I believe the F70 will receive OS9, no bmw controller. Do you have any information on that? Cheers and greetings from Munich ![]() |
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Hi everyone,
New here and really like all the infos! Does anyone know if the M3 touring will get a facelift or maybe a CS version or if it’s more like a one shot before a totally new one much later? Thanks and greeting forme Switzerland |
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