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      03-09-2023, 04:36 PM   #1585
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Here’s another one:

https://apple.news/A9TmhQa0VQBmSSAS5yedrxg

It’s virtually impossible to mine enough minerals and ore to produce 2 billion electric cars. Add to that exploitation, theft etc. There is no landfill big enough to bury 2 billion used batteries without treading in dangerous waters.

Interesting read nonetheless.

I got to thinking. What would happen to classic ICE cars?!
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      03-09-2023, 04:42 PM   #1586
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Like Harry if you want to keep your classic cars going without feeling guilty about carbon emissions and have money to pay for it they seem to serve a purpose. I suspect that the cost will be prohibitive for most normal ice users.
Well, he says about double the cost right now of regular gas, who knows. I just like that there are folks out there who are trying to work on alternative rather than just saying if you keep your ICE you're evil.
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      03-09-2023, 05:05 PM   #1587
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Well, he says about double the cost right now of regular gas, who knows. I just like that there are folks out there who are trying to work on alternative rather than just saying if you keep your ICE you're evil.
Another interesting article.. seems it may serve a purpose.
https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/synthe...waAiJZEALw_wcB
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      03-09-2023, 05:58 PM   #1588
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https://www.theguardian.com/environm...nuclear-option

"Land sparing lay at the core of the manifesto, with the aim of rewilding as much of the world’s surface as possible by concentrating human activities. Ultimately, they wrote, technology could “decouple” economic growth from planetary systems, and the “wise” use of nuclear power, genetic modification and intensive agriculture would lead “to a good, or even great Anthropocene”.

Precision fermentation and nuclear power are emblematic of the kinds of technical fixes they call for. Precision fermentation could, they claim, allow for the entire world’s protein to be produced from an area the size of London"


Are we trying to avoid or invite extinctions
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      03-09-2023, 09:50 PM   #1589
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to the original question -

yes i want an EV so bad, one that suits that i can afford of course, of which currently there are none

went for a hoon around just now in the M340i and i stopped the car and gassed the pedal - full to the floor and the car just won't move until it gets past 3000rpm.

i am so annoyed

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      03-09-2023, 11:27 PM   #1590
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to the original question -

yes i want an EV so bad, one that suits that i can afford of course, of which currently there are none

went for a hoon around just now in the M340i and i stopped the car and gassed the pedal - full to the floor and the car just won't move until it gets past 3000rpm.

i am so annoyed

/end rant
That's throttle and automatic transmission lag. The turbo 3.0 makes plenty of torque well below 3000k. You need to drive a car with actual turbo lag where it doesn't build appreciable boost till 2800-3000...It ain't like your M340.
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      03-10-2023, 12:03 AM   #1591
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That's throttle and automatic transmission lag. The turbo 3.0 makes plenty of torque well below 3000k. You need to drive a car with actual turbo lag where it doesn't build appreciable boost till 2800-3000...It ain't like your M340.
i know all about that

i had a manual subaru sti and its turbo starts to come on boost at 4000 rpm and starts to drop at 5000rpm
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      03-10-2023, 12:55 AM   #1592
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OK, this is funny, like,
Alleged Thieves in Tesla SUV Arrested After Stopping To Charge 10 Miles From Crime Scene

https://www.thedrive.com/news/allege...om-crime-scene
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      03-10-2023, 02:07 AM   #1593
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OK, this is funny, like,
Alleged Thieves in Tesla SUV Arrested After Stopping To Charge 10 Miles From Crime Scene

https://www.thedrive.com/news/allege...om-crime-scene
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      03-10-2023, 05:33 AM   #1594
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to the original question -

yes i want an EV so bad, one that suits that i can afford of course, of which currently there are none

went for a hoon around just now in the M340i and i stopped the car and gassed the pedal - full to the floor and the car just won't move until it gets past 3000rpm.

i am so annoyed

/end rant
Instant torque is so satisfying it feels weird going back to ICE on the weekends lol
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      03-10-2023, 09:26 AM   #1595
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OK, this is funny, like,
Alleged Thieves in Tesla SUV Arrested After Stopping To Charge 10 Miles From Crime Scene

https://www.thedrive.com/news/allege...om-crime-scene
Like a modern day dumb and dumber.
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      03-10-2023, 02:47 PM   #1596
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OK, this is funny, like,
Alleged Thieves in Tesla SUV Arrested After Stopping To Charge 10 Miles From Crime Scene

https://www.thedrive.com/news/allege...om-crime-scene
more funny when the cops need to charge
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-64901247

"So instead of enjoying themselves and visiting local attractions, they will be driving around trying to find a charger."
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-64901247

"So instead of enjoying themselves and visiting local attractions, they will be driving around trying to find a charger."
I just don’t understand why these hyper pro electric vehicle supporters just can’t admit that this system of everyone owning an electric vehicle will only work if there are chargers everywhere one can park. It’s that or there will have to be a charging station everywhere and in the same amounts there are gas stations and you’ll have to be able to charge your car in under five minutes. Otherwise I’m sticking by what I’ve always said, and that is forcing this on the public will only cause irreparable damage.

So the two choices are-
1. Charging stations everywhere there are gas stations and you can charge 100% in less than five minutes.
2. Charging stations everywhere a car can park.

Without one of those two options, electric vehicles are nothing more than novelty toys for the upper middle class to add to their existing ice fleet at home.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-bristol-64901247

"So instead of enjoying themselves and visiting local attractions, they will be driving around trying to find a charger."
3 charging poles in a thousand caravan camp
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I just don’t understand why these hyper pro electric vehicle supporters just can’t admit that this system of everyone owning an electric vehicle will only work if there are chargers everywhere one can park. It’s that or there will have to be a charging station everywhere and in the same amounts there are gas stations and you’ll have to be able to charge your car in under five minutes. Otherwise I’m sticking by what I’ve always said, and that is forcing this on the public will only cause irreparable damage.

So the two choices are-
1. Charging stations everywhere there are gas stations and you can charge 100% in less than five minutes.
2. Charging stations everywhere a car can park.

Without one of those two options, electric vehicles are nothing more than novelty toys for the upper middle class to add to their existing ice fleet at home.
Gas stations are currently way overkill.
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Gas stations are currently way overkill.
Yeah, until you need one. And there are none around.

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Gas stations are currently way overkill.
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This thread is almost a year old - and I still don't want an EV!
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Greta Thunberg deletes 2018 tweet saying world will end in 2023 after world does not end.

#keepongrifting
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#keepongrifting
I mean it is still 2023... so she is technically not wrong yet
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