[vinny84]

Can't wait. This is going to be an exciting month for all of us. Until then....

[jrstech]

Is this the red M235 that we've seen?

[vinny84]

Originally Posted by jrstech

Is this the red M235 that we've seen?

This looks like the red one we've seen! Looks amazing!

Can anyone confirm this is the real deal?

[jrstech]

If someone can translate this, I found the pic at this site:

http://www.autozeitung.de/auto-neuhe...2/3?panorama=1

[IEDEI]

Originally Posted by jrstech

If someone can translate this, I found the pic at this site:

http://www.autozeitung.de/auto-neuhe...2/3?panorama=1

definitely just a rendering...not a real picture. i wish it looked more like this picture instead of the actual red one in the spy photos

[michas24]

I wish too! I think that this render looks much better then the red one we seen before!

[jrstech]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

definitely just a rendering...not a real picture. i wish it looked more like this picture instead of the actual red one in the spy photos

I think the spy shots of the red car were taken with a long zoom lens so the proportions are probably way off.

[Vervain]

Originally Posted by IEDEI

definitely just a rendering...not a real picture. i wish it looked more like this picture instead of the actual red one in the spy photos

Originally Posted by jrstech

I think the spy shots of the red car were taken with a long zoom lens so the proportions are probably way off.

I think you're right. It does look a bit off in those pics.

[M3_WC]

Looks identical to me.

2-series looks so much more aggressive than the dopey looking 135i front end.

[jrstech]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

Looks identical to me.

2-series looks so much more aggressive than the dopey looking 135i front end.

I agree, it is clean looking like the e92, even if it's 90% like this I'm in!

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by jrstech

If someone can translate this, I found the pic at this site:

http://www.autozeitung.de/auto-neuhe...2/3?panorama=1

This is what google translate says:

"BMW NEWS: M235I
The M235i M135i replaces. He seems much more dynamic and mature than its predecessor. The power increases to 320 hp"

That looks too similar to the real red spy shot to be render in my opinion...

Looks like the real thing to me

[Greenkirby21]

Originally Posted by pikcachu

This is what google translate says:

"BMW NEWS: M235I
The M235i M135i replaces. He seems much more dynamic and mature than its predecessor. The power increases to 320 hp"

That looks too similar to the real red spy shot to be render in my opinion...

Looks like the real thing to me

It is definitely a render, and I think i have seen it before as well. If you look at the lower center grille, you can see it is not straight as in someone didn't align the grille properly.

But, as you said, I think this is a pretty darn good and accurate render.

Guys - I am really excited. I think a lot of people are underestimating the M235i. I *really* think it is going to be a lot better then we expect it to be. At least I hope so or I am going to another brand

I know many people are disappointed with the F30 and F10. They are softer, EPS is crap, etc.

BUT, and here is a big BUT (and what I think everyone is waiting for from BMW).

This is an "M" performance model. I think BMW is really trying hard for this car. An M performance model should be better then a standard 335i, for example. The issues people are having - soft suspension, bad steering - it should be improved and sportier. Obviously not as good as a real M, but better.

Then this brings me to my next topic -> cars near the 50k range.

In Europe, the M135i is really cheap compared to the CLA45 AMG.
In the USA? maybe not so much. A base CLA45 AMG starts at 47k. Not only that, but a corvette C7 starts at 51k. I know apples to oranges, since a 2 series and sits 4, while a Corvette is a pure sports car. But for me, at least, I am considering both (and a CLA45 AMG, and Cayman, and possibly alfa romeo 4c).

You are talking about a car that, if begins at lets say 43k, will get to 47k with only adding leather interior, wood trim, and an automatic transmission.

HP is not everything, but you can't deny a C7 with 480 hp, 480 torque, active aero, 0-60 in 3.8 seconds, 29 MPG highway for a few k more is enticing.

BMW needs a car that will own the segment until the proper M2 arrives, which is quite a long time from now.

Hopefully, by now, BMW has bettered the EPS and with the LSD, the M235i should be a real joy.

is the LSD going to be standard or an option? I always thought it was going to be an option from BMW M performance, but some people are talking like it will be a standard or even factory option.

[Rupes]

That's totally a render. BMW would never make an entry level car that pretty, especially in the first year of production. What would they have left to do for an LCI update?

[wdlfbio]

Glad I have about 15k miles, or 4-5 months, to decide whether I stick with BMW (235), go to a Mustang to beat the heck out of, or try a vette (yeah, will be 41 soon, so I figure i'm old enough). I'm hoping the new 2er is priced appropriately to keep me with the brand. I really would like to keep with something small, quick, and nimble, but a mean V8 is appealing too.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by wdlfbio

Glad I have about 15k miles, or 4-5 months, to decide whether I stick with BMW (235), go to a Mustang to beat the heck out of, or try a vette (yeah, will be 41 soon, so I figure i'm old enough). I'm hoping the new 2er is priced appropriately to keep me with the brand. I really would like to keep with something small, quick, and nimble, but a mean V8 is appealing too.

Speaking of the new C7 vette...I've never been a corvette guy, but this new has me seriously interested. It is getting great reviews and I find myself becoming addicted to find as many videos of the car and have even been lurking on corvette forums. IDK, I have less than year to decide (more like 7 months if I need to custom order something). I worry the new M3/4 is going to be too hard to get and expensive and the new 2er is the only other Bimmer I'm interested in. It is sad to say, but I'm getting a little bored. Hopefully the 2er will be a winner.

[BMW-Addicted]

Absolutely, it's a render. It is utterly out of the question that there will be comfort seats available in the 2 Series. Nevertheless I love the pic.....

[michas24]

Just to compare.

[vinny84]

Originally Posted by michas24

Just to compare.

Taking into account that the spy photo was shot with a wide angle zoom lens (supposedly), I would say the render is pretty much spot on minus the comfort seats

[pimp4cheddar]

Anymore info about a date for details...I'm waiting along with everyone else.

It seems like my next ideal car!

[vinny84]

Sounds like October 25th for online reveal.

Official press reveal is in January debuting next to the M3/M4

Production starts in November

[waitwhat]

is it officially or just another rumor? i mean hell yeah bring it on, but it seems super fast considering they just revealed the 4 series.

and yeah, can't wait any more. i google this car literally every day.

[vinny84]

Originally Posted by waitwhat

is it officially or just another rumor? i mean hell yeah bring it on, but it seems super fast considering they just revealed the 4 series.

and yeah, can't wait any more. i google this car literally every day.

The M235i has been confirmed for months now. So yes, it's coming.

Performance wise I think it will be on par with the 435i M Sport, but most likely a lot more fun to drive.

We shall see