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It's important to note, however, aftermarket notwithstanding, the Mk5 is lighter, more powerful, better handling, and faster than the MK4 Supra and is still impressive compared to the competition. Tuning to 1000hp is not my thing, but the lack of a manual is admittedly a mistake. Name it something other than a Supra and I don't see why there is so much hate. MK4 fans want a Supra that is made by Toyota, is tunable to 1000hp, and looks like a MK4 Supra. They have one and it's called the MK4 Supra.
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Why does everyone keep bring up the A80's weight? It's about the same as the 300zx and way less than the 3000GT VR-4 (3,7xx lbs).
Personally, I didn't want it look like an A80. I was hoping it was going to look like the FT-1. You know the car that they cock teased us with nonstop for years. |
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I think most people and especially people who were excited about it coming back out just thought it would be more bad ass. Shit, 400 HP is nothing these days. I feel the same with these new M 3/4 cars. I want more power!!! LOL. Maybe cause I bought my GTR 11 years ago and it had 485 HP all those years ago, I'm asking to much for BMW's holy grail to have more out of the box. I don't know. I've been stuck on ordering an RS6 or waiting for the Z06 to come out. Maybe down the road come back to an M car. Time will tell
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In that context, given how it actually wasn't that iconic off the lot, more after the fact, then maybe we are being too harsh on the GR Supra. It's still fairly new and actually isn't getting as much a negative a reaction other than what I already mentioned: It has to live up to the Supra name and it doesn't come in a manual. Other than that, it seems to be a fine track toy (with some mods of course). I really don't understand all the hate. We don't have many options out there, everyone seems to be catering to the lowest common denominator of more power and 0-60 times, or lightweight cars with no guts (86, MX-5). I welcome a 300hp+, sub 3400lb car. Just wish it had a manual.
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I don't necessarily disagree with most of the second half of your post. I feel I have been fairly neutral on the matter. Last edited by supra93; 02-18-2021 at 04:47 PM.. |
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*That isn't a Nissan (i wouldn't buy a 370Z either, but it is literally all of those things you mentioned with a base price of about $30K) Back on topic, I also think the Zupra gets a bit too much hate, though i'm completely floored that they didn't offer a M/T. I'd have bought that car and not the M2 if they had put a M/T in it. |
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Did the FT-1 concept look better... sure but, I do like the look of the new Supra. The thing I like is that Toyota made minute changes for reliability which would be nice to have vs owning the BMW version long term. If only Toyota diverged away from BMW with respect to the transmission choice. C'mon. Adopt BMW's DCT already and charge extra for it if you won't do a manual but, conventional automatics do not belong in sports cars!
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It make sense for the EU and Japan with emission and engine tax displacement. However for the U.S. not so much imo. Toyota has only predicted a 20% rate for the 2.0. A TX dealer is saying no one is buying them. I think few places like CA seems to have less of an issue moving the 2.0s.
I think once the 400Z is release Toyota will either drop the 2.0 altogether, heavy discount it, and or revisit it with updates in-order to better compete with what Nissan is offering. |
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2021: more power 2022: manual 2023: T-Top
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That will be a while. Everything I'm seeing says the 400Z isn't likely to be released until late-2022 or early 2023.
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