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      05-31-2015, 06:19 AM   #67
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The m4 rod should have come with 2 bolts and 2 m6 nuts which secures both ends of the rod. Remove one of the bolts (ball shaped end) and push the ball end into the socket on the lower end of your existing rod. Insert into the bracket on drivers m3 LCA and secure with m6 nut.

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Pika,

The m4 rod should have come with 2 bolts and 2 m6 nuts which secures both ends of the rod. Remove one of the bolts (ball shaped end) and push the ball end into the socket on the lower end of your existing rod. Insert into the bracket on drivers m3 LCA and secure with m6 nut.

Hope this helps.

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Did you have to adjust your headlight height after the LCA swap?
wonder if the height now it's the same as before as the position with the new arm might not be exactly the same as before with the old clamp style....
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      06-07-2015, 02:37 PM   #69
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Yes, headlights needed adjusting downwards slightly as end of regulating rod connection is higher on F8x LCA compared with F2x LCA
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Yes, headlights needed adjusting downwards slightly as end of regulating rod connection is higher on F8x LCA compared with F2x LCA
any idea how many turns you needed?
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Anyone with xDrive tried out these LCA's ?

The part numbers for the front wishbones (LCA's) as you call them are different on the M235i and M235xi. I don't know what the exact differences are except the part number though
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any idea how many turns you needed?
Had a video from when I coded Variable light distribution so i was able to compare.... I needed about 3 full turns on each side
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      06-09-2015, 01:30 PM   #73
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Anyone with xDrive tried out these LCA's ?

The part numbers for the front wishbones (LCA's) as you call them are different on the M235i and M235xi. I don't know what the exact differences are except the part number though
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I'd be cautious about doing this mod to an xdrive as it may put additional strain on the end of the driveshaft that goes into the hub carrier.
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Here is a pic of how it looks
Pika,

Any more photos of before and after lac install ?

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Understood, i was asking if anyone tried it on the M235 xdrive version.. Part numbers are different so i would attempt it without alot better information.
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Here is a pic of how it looks
Pika,

Any more photos of before and after lac install ?

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Had a video from when I coded Variable light distribution so i was able to compare.... I needed about 3 full turns on each side


Clockwise or counter, also my rod and kit from turner look much different?
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Clockwise or counter, also my rod and kit from turner look much different?
clockwise

did you read this from BeePee?

"The m4 rod should have come with 2 bolts and 2 m6 nuts which secures both ends of the rod. Remove one of the bolts (ball shaped end) and push the ball end into the socket on the lower end of your existing rod. Insert into the bracket on drivers m3 LCA and secure with m6 nut.
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You don't use the M4 rod... just take one of the ball ends and stick it into the stock rod
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clockwise

did you read this from BeePee?

"The m4 rod should have come with 2 bolts and 2 m6 nuts which secures both ends of the rod. Remove one of the bolts (ball shaped end) and push the ball end into the socket on the lower end of your existing rod. Insert into the bracket on drivers m3 LCA and secure with m6 nut.
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You don't use the M4 rod... just take one of the ball ends and stick it into the stock rod
Turner kit also comes with a bracket, I just used the bracket, which relocates the sensor, and then used the rod for the Lca, I will take a photo if anyone needs it.
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clockwise

did you read this from BeePee?

"The m4 rod should have come with 2 bolts and 2 m6 nuts which secures both ends of the rod. Remove one of the bolts (ball shaped end) and push the ball end into the socket on the lower end of your existing rod. Insert into the bracket on drivers m3 LCA and secure with m6 nut.
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You don't use the M4 rod... just take one of the ball ends and stick it into the stock rod
Turner kit also comes with a bracket, I just used the bracket, which relocates the sensor, and then used the rod for the Lca, I will take a photo if anyone needs it.
Yes I know but it's much easier to use the stock bracket as the cable for the sensor is a bit short and also the adjustments for the headlight height might be less reusing the stock rod than with the M4 braket/rod, so your adjustment might be up or down....

I don't think there is a right or wrong way... if you like it like that and everything works great...

yours probably look more like this

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I'm also curious about using these on xdrive. If anyone does it PLEASE let us know the results as far as how it appears the axle is affected.
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Yes I know but it's much easier to use the stock bracket as the cable for the sensor is a bit short and also the adjustments for the headlight height might be less reusing the stock rod than with the M4 braket/rod, so your adjustment might be up or down....

I don't think there is a right or wrong way... if you like it like that and everything works great...

yours probably look more like this

I would stick with your way pikca, using the bracket really stretches the wires, will prob switch it back.
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I'm also curious about using these on xdrive. If anyone does it PLEASE let us know the results as far as how it appears the axle is affected.

I would definitely not use these on an x drive, your changing the angle and distance by a lot, plus they were not designed with a drive axle in mind (m3/4)

They will put stress on the driveline components In ways they were not designed.
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I would definitely not use these on an x drive, your changing the angle and distance by a lot, plus they were not designed with a drive axle in mind (m3/4)

They will put stress on the driveline components In ways they were not designed.
Would camber plates do the same thing?
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Would camber plates do the same thing?
To a lesser extent because camber plates shift the top pivot point ie strut tower.

Depending how much extra camber you go for will determine how much extra wear potential you put into front half shaft assemblies.
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Regarding the fitment on the cars with xenon headlights, would I have to separately purchase the m3/4 rod?. Also, is there a different part # for the LCA?
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Regarding the fitment on the cars with xenon headlights, would I have to separately purchase the m3/4 rod?. Also, is there a different part # for the LCA?
you buy the lca that comes with the rod so you can steal one of the ball ends

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Pikachu did you ever see if this mod would work with the stock 17" wheels that I have? I know they work with the Kosei's that you have but if I don't have to buy wheels then that would be awesome.
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