Track Days

M3 Number 86 · 06-07-2015, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

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Originally Posted by socal TW

If they are dedicated track tires directional goes out the door as the tread is for water.

Also don't waste money on tpms on a track set! You should be monitoring tires pressure anyways.

Yes but I've read before that if you run them backwards they might wear out prematurely... not sure if true or not...

Also it's nice to be able to check tire pressure and temp in real time while on the track so tpms is actually quite useful

Direction won't matter - it is strictly to make sure you are treading water in the rain correctly. Inside outside may matter depending on tire since compounds may be different inside outside.

Regarding tpms are they truly real time with readings? You should do warm up, a few hot laps, then take a reading when tires are at its hottest and adjust pressures with a (real) tire gauge and let some air out if necessary. Or if you don't want to lose seat time, run your session, do a brisk cool down lap at about 75-80%, come in measure and adjust as needed.

Before the session you tire pressures will be low, the tpms will sound, then you'll reset, but when you start your car again for the next session, it'll read low again, repeat. Such a hassle! lol.

My tires change by 10 psi, I don't need a tpms bothering me

If you aren't driving at speeds yet it may not matter (minimal psi change).

If you want them for piece of mind ok. I don't know how deep you are into this sick addiction but eventually you'll start not caring about tpms guaranteed.

pikcachu · 06-07-2015, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by socal TW

Direction won't matter - it is strictly to make sure you are treading water in the rain correctly. Inside outside may matter depending on tire since compounds may be different inside outside.

Regarding tpms are they truly real time with readings? You should do warm up, a few hot laps, then take a reading when tires are at its hottest and adjust pressures with a (real) tire gauge and let some air out if necessary. Or if you don't want to lose seat time, run your session, do a brisk cool down lap at about 75-80%, come in measure and adjust as needed.

Before the session you tire pressures will be low, the tpms will sound, then you'll reset, but when you start your car again for the next session, it'll read low again, repeat. Such a hassle! lol.

My tires change by 10 psi, I don't need a tpms bothering me

If you aren't driving at speeds yet it may not matter (minimal psi change).

If you want them for piece of mind ok. I don't know how deep you are into this sick addiction but eventually you'll start not caring about tpms guaranteed.

Yes, they are... not sure what's the refresh rate but it's about 30 seconds or so I believe....

what pressure do you start at?

M3 Number 86 · 06-07-2015, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

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Originally Posted by socal TW

Direction won't matter - it is strictly to make sure you are treading water in the rain correctly. Inside outside may matter depending on tire since compounds may be different inside outside.

Regarding tpms are they truly real time with readings? You should do warm up, a few hot laps, then take a reading when tires are at its hottest and adjust pressures with a (real) tire gauge and let some air out if necessary. Or if you don't want to lose seat time, run your session, do a brisk cool down lap at about 75-80%, come in measure and adjust as needed.

Before the session you tire pressures will be low, the tpms will sound, then you'll reset, but when you start your car again for the next session, it'll read low again, repeat. Such a hassle! lol.

My tires change by 10 psi, I don't need a tpms bothering me

If you aren't driving at speeds yet it may not matter (minimal psi change).

If you want them for piece of mind ok. I don't know how deep you are into this sick addiction but eventually you'll start not caring about tpms guaranteed.

Yes, they are... not sure what's the refresh rate but it's about 30 seconds or so I believe....

what pressure do you start at?

Depends on temps and track but I usually start around 24 cold targeting 34-36 hot but I'm in a different car. I just like track threads!

rich8566 · 07-05-2015, 05:24 PM

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I did about 10 track days in my M235i last year. I went through two sets of MPSS tires and I'm on my third set of brake pads. This year I'm going to run on a square wheel and tire setup. First outing this year is set in early May at the Glen.

Just about the same. I've done 11 days so far in my M235i. I went through a set of MPSS, the fronts on a set of Direzza II's, and then I got camber plates put in to save tires.

I am, however, only on my second set of brake pads (switched to Porterfield R4-S pads). Nice thing about living in SoCal is you can do track stuff all year around (except in mid summer -- too hot).

Are you bone stock or have you done some track/suspension mods?

No mods except a square setup - 245/40 Hancook RS-3s on 17" Kosei's

bk_g80_m3 · 08-31-2015, 10:18 AM

I've been looking for a thread like this. So all of you with 10+ track days how does the car hold up so far? Still stock brakes with just pad swap?

I'm looking seriously at buying an M235i (test drove and loved it) to replace the Golf R I should not have purchased. I also want to do some tracking with it maybe 5-10 days a year max.

I'm trying to figure out if I should wait for the M2 and spend the extra scratch there. But the M235i is fast/fun enough I think. I just know M cars usually have better brakes/suspension and of course more power etc.

For perspective right now I am tracking a JCW MINI coupe so I don't necessarily care about brute force but more handling.

rich8566 · 09-04-2015, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

I've been looking for a thread like this. So all of you with 10+ track days how does the car hold up so far? Still stock brakes with just pad swap?

I'm looking seriously at buying an M235i (test drove and loved it) to replace the Golf R I should not have purchased. I also want to do some tracking with it maybe 5-10 days a year max.

I'm trying to figure out if I should wait for the M2 and spend the extra scratch there. But the M235i is fast/fun enough I think. I just know M cars usually have better brakes/suspension and of course more power etc.

For perspective right now I am tracking a JCW MINI coupe so I don't necessarily care about brute force but more handling.

My 2014 M235i is holding up very well. Between this year and last year I have about 16 track days on the car and over 26,000 miles. I'm on my fourth set of brake pads and the original rotors. I've also been through three sets of tires. The RS-3s are holding up very well compared to the staggered OEM MPSS.

bk_g80_m3 · 09-05-2015, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rich8566

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

I've been looking for a thread like this. So all of you with 10+ track days how does the car hold up so far? Still stock brakes with just pad swap?

I'm looking seriously at buying an M235i (test drove and loved it) to replace the Golf R I should not have purchased. I also want to do some tracking with it maybe 5-10 days a year max.

I'm trying to figure out if I should wait for the M2 and spend the extra scratch there. But the M235i is fast/fun enough I think. I just know M cars usually have better brakes/suspension and of course more power etc.

For perspective right now I am tracking a JCW MINI coupe so I don't necessarily care about brute force but more handling.

My 2014 M235i is holding up very well. Between this year and last year I have about 16 track days on the car and over 26,000 miles. I'm on my fourth set of brake pads and the original rotors. I've also been through three sets of tires. The RS-3s are holding up very well compared to the staggered OEM MPSS.

Are you running stock pads?

rich8566 · 09-05-2015, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

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Originally Posted by rich8566

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

I've been looking for a thread like this. So all of you with 10+ track days how does the car hold up so far? Still stock brakes with just pad swap?

I'm looking seriously at buying an M235i (test drove and loved it) to replace the Golf R I should not have purchased. I also want to do some tracking with it maybe 5-10 days a year max.

I'm trying to figure out if I should wait for the M2 and spend the extra scratch there. But the M235i is fast/fun enough I think. I just know M cars usually have better brakes/suspension and of course more power etc.

For perspective right now I am tracking a JCW MINI coupe so I don't necessarily care about brute force but more handling.

My 2014 M235i is holding up very well. Between this year and last year I have about 16 track days on the car and over 26,000 miles. I'm on my fourth set of brake pads and the original rotors. I've also been through three sets of tires. The RS-3s are holding up very well compared to the staggered OEM MPSS.

Are you running stock pads?

Yes - stock pads. They are the M sport brakes on the M235i. They are also replaced without cost by the dealer under the BMW maintenance warranty.

bk_g80_m3 · 09-05-2015, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rich8566

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

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Originally Posted by rich8566

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

I've been looking for a thread like this. So all of you with 10+ track days how does the car hold up so far? Still stock brakes with just pad swap?

I'm looking seriously at buying an M235i (test drove and loved it) to replace the Golf R I should not have purchased. I also want to do some tracking with it maybe 5-10 days a year max.

I'm trying to figure out if I should wait for the M2 and spend the extra scratch there. But the M235i is fast/fun enough I think. I just know M cars usually have better brakes/suspension and of course more power etc.

For perspective right now I am tracking a JCW MINI coupe so I don't necessarily care about brute force but more handling.

My 2014 M235i is holding up very well. Between this year and last year I have about 16 track days on the car and over 26,000 miles. I'm on my fourth set of brake pads and the original rotors. I've also been through three sets of tires. The RS-3s are holding up very well compared to the staggered OEM MPSS.

Are you running stock pads?

Yes - stock pads. They are the M sport brakes on the M235i. They are also replaced without cost by the dealer under the BMW maintenance warranty.

Wow that's impressive. Would you say you are an aggressive driver? or do you stay at a good pace?

pikcachu · 09-05-2015, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

Wow that's impressive. Would you say you are an aggressive driver? or do you stay at a good pace?

well at 7k / brake set he is no grandma

Iceman51sn · 09-05-2015, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

well at 7k / brake set he is no grandma

Yep!

Stock pads are pretty good but not good enough for me. I am moving on to EBC yellowstuff. Its a good track/street pad.

bk_g80_m3 · 09-06-2015, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pikcachu

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

Wow that's impressive. Would you say you are an aggressive driver? or do you stay at a good pace?

well at 7k / brake set he is no grandma

Well yeah true but I've seen some Sunday drivers on track before. Trust me!

Also some people are better drivers which means they can and will use their brakes less.

It's tough to know. I think I over brake a bit because I'm still fairly new.

rich8566 · 09-07-2015, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

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Originally Posted by rich8566

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

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Originally Posted by rich8566

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

I've been looking for a thread like this. So all of you with 10+ track days how does the car hold up so far? Still stock brakes with just pad swap?

I'm looking seriously at buying an M235i (test drove and loved it) to replace the Golf R I should not have purchased. I also want to do some tracking with it maybe 5-10 days a year max.

I'm trying to figure out if I should wait for the M2 and spend the extra scratch there. But the M235i is fast/fun enough I think. I just know M cars usually have better brakes/suspension and of course more power etc.

For perspective right now I am tracking a JCW MINI coupe so I don't necessarily care about brute force but more handling.

My 2014 M235i is holding up very well. Between this year and last year I have about 16 track days on the car and over 26,000 miles. I'm on my fourth set of brake pads and the original rotors. I've also been through three sets of tires. The RS-3s are holding up very well compared to the staggered OEM MPSS.

Are you running stock pads?

Yes - stock pads. They are the M sport brakes on the M235i. They are also replaced without cost by the dealer under the BMW maintenance warranty.

Wow that's impressive. Would you say you are an aggressive driver? or do you stay at a good pace?

Aggressive driver on the track.

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