[omerakz]

Hello all,

I bought Millway street camber plates last week and installed it to my 220D with ST Coilovers.

After the installation, everything looked great but I had excessive noise from the top mount.

With OE top mount, there is no sound at all, but this plates made too much noise on the road.

I guess it is because of the gap between shock's head and bolt nut.

Attached Youtube video shows the noise on the road and the gap.

https://youtube.com/shorts/0u90mx1AUTg?feature=share

I mailed to Millway and the place I bought it (ML Performance) and waiting for them to provide a solution.

But I would like to hear your opinions! Especially if there is someone installed Millway plates to ST coilovers.

Thanks in advance

[aerobod]

Driving the car without the damper/shock piston rod firmly torqued to the mount bearing is not really advisable, just causing wear between the bearing and piston shaft. This sounds more like an issue with the coilovers having a longer relief on the end of the piston below the thread than the OEM dampers. A spacer under the nut or temporarily several washers would be needed to allow the nut to be torqued correctly.

[omerakz]

Originally Posted by aerobod

Driving the car without the damper/shock piston rod firmly torqued to the mount bearing is not really advisable, just causing wear between the bearing and piston shaft. This sounds more like an issue with the coilovers having a longer relief on the end of the piston below the thread than the OEM dampers. A spacer under the nut or temporarily several washers would be needed to allow the nut to be torqued correctly.

Okay but where should i put the washers? Before docking the plate or after?

Because we tried to put washers after docking the plate and torqued the nut on that did not help at all :/

Edit: when we install the OE top mount without any washers to the same coilovers, there is no problem.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by omerakz

Okay but where should i put the washers? Before docking the plate or after?

Because we tried to put washers after docking the plate and torqued the nut on that did not help at all :/

Edit: when we install the OE top mount without any washers to the same coilovers, there is no problem.

I would measure the thickness and position of the bearing in the camber plate vs the OEM top mount and install appropriate sized washers to mimic the damper position in the OEM mount.

[omerakz]

Originally Posted by aerobod

I would measure the thickness and position of the bearing in the camber plate vs the OEM top mount and install appropriate sized washers to mimic the damper position in the OEM mount.

Thanks for that advice, i will try it as soon as possible!

[MassNerd]

My car has this exact same noise issue with the stock struts. Also running Millway Street camber plates. Let me know if you solve it!

[omerakz]

Originally Posted by MassNerd

My car has this exact same noise issue with the stock struts. Also running Millway Street camber plates. Let me know if you solve it!

I talked with Millway, ST Suspensions and the place i bought it, but nobody could provide a solution yet :/

I am running with stock top mount for now.

I will let you know if i fix this!

Did you talk with Millway about that? Because they claim that i should not make any sound with stock struts.

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by omerakz

Hello all,

I bought Millway street camber plates last week and installed it to my 220D with ST Coilovers.

After the installation, everything looked great but I had excessive noise from the top mount.

With OE top mount, there is no sound at all, but this plates made too much noise on the road.

I guess it is because of the gap between shock's head and bolt nut.

Attached Youtube video shows the noise on the road and the gap.

https://youtube.com/shorts/0u90mx1AUTg?feature=share

I mailed to Millway and the place I bought it (ML Performance) and waiting for them to provide a solution.

But I would like to hear your opinions! Especially if there is someone installed Millway plates to ST coilovers.

Thanks in advance

Are you saying you couldn't fully seat the top nut? Photo of the assembly would help us determine your issue.

Add a spacer or washer.

[omerakz]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Are you saying you couldn't fully seat the top nut? Photo of the assembly would help us determine your issue.

Add a spacer or washer.

We used several different washers to test couple times, fully seated the top mount, but could not solve the noise issue.

I'm thinking it might be the coilover making noise, not the plate. Because OE top mounts seems very sound absorbing, i dont hear any noise with them.

This is why, we will test it on a friend's M235i with Öhlins coilovers and see if it make that noise.

Photo attached to show the different between OE strut and ST coilover (ST on right)

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by omerakz

We used several different washers to test couple times, fully seated the top mount, but could not solve the noise issue.

I'm thinking it might be the coilover making noise, not the plate. Because OE top mounts seems very sound absorbing, i dont hear any noise with them.

This is why, we will test it on a friend's M235i with Öhlins coilovers and see if it make that noise.

Photo attached to show the different between OE strut and ST coilover (ST on right)

Make sure the plates have a tapered profile upper seat. Potential source of noise if the spring perches aren't seating properly.

[omerakz]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Make sure the plates have a tapered profile upper seat. Potential source of noise if the spring perches aren't seating properly.

We installed just like in the manual, by transferring OEM spring bearing.

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by omerakz

We installed just like in the manual, by transferring OEM spring bearing.

Because OE and KW/ST have diff strut profiles, need to make sure the camber plates you got have the exactly the same as well.

[freakystyly]

The Millway street plates and OE Lemforder mounts are not tapered on the underside.

[HP Autosport]

Looks like KW /ST for F8x chassis has a square shoulder so you are good to go!

[Jaik]

omerakz did you ever solve your issues with this? What was the fix?

[omerakz]

Originally Posted by Jaik

omerakz did you ever solve your issues with this? What was the fix?

Sadly i could not solve it, my mechanic said ST coilovers tend to make noise, camber plate is just making it louder. I am not sure about that, but it was a disappointment and -€600 for me :')

I bought ST XTA (that includes camber plate top mount) for my other car and it's both silent and provides more than -3 camber

[Not A M4]

Hey guys, I recently installed millway street camber plates and at low speeds over uneven pavement I get a clunk sound that sounds like the camber plates to me. I have triple checked everything and even asked KW for a full warranty refresh on springs and bump stops on my DDC kit, nothing. still clunking. I am worried it is the camber plates... Samuel Lindkvist

[Jaik]

Originally Posted by Not A M4

Hey guys, I recently installed millway street camber plates and at low speeds over uneven pavement I get a clunk sound that sounds like the camber plates to me. I have triple checked everything and even asked KW for a full warranty refresh on springs and bump stops on my DDC kit, nothing. still clunking. I am worried it is the camber plates... Samuel Lindkvist

I've run both the Track and Street tops in my Millways and they BOTH sound ridiculous and rattle with OEM EDC dampers. To be honest, I can't tell the difference between both - they both sounds as bad as each other. I am genuinely surprised considering the street tops have no metal-on-metal with the poly bush... yet to me they sound just the same as the solid bearing in the track top.

I put a bluetooth lapel microphone on the strut tops and went for a drive, recording the audio... and WEIRDLY I got none of the noise recorded that I heard with my ears in the cabin.

This is doing my head in haha

[Not A M4]

Yeah, I really was hoping to use these with no tradeoff as I am xDrive and dont want to do lower arms, but now I am considering camber knuckles and minor adjustment with arms FaRKle! might be able to comment on this, I could also add KMAC bushings to get camber and roll correction. I guess I am ging back to OEM tophats...

[freakystyly]

Originally Posted by Jaik

I've run both the Track and Street tops in my Millways and they BOTH sound ridiculous and rattle with OEM EDC dampers.

Have you ruled out the dampers as the cause?

I had a similar situation with EDC struts and the street plates. Low speed clunking. Until swapping to Koni yellows and everything now is silent. Note: I did add the paper thin gasket between camber plate and strut hat, but I highly doubt that helped.

[Jaik]

Originally Posted by freakystyly

Have you ruled out the dampers as the cause?

I had a similar situation with EDC struts and the street plates. Low speed clunking. Until swapping to Koni yellows and everything now is silent. Note: I did add the paper thin gasket between camber plate and strut hat, but I highly doubt that helped.

I haven't tried new shocks. My car only has 40,000 miles on it, and the shocks work extremely well. I do not have the paper gasket, but as I understand it, it is only to prevent corrosion between the aluminium top hat and the body. I don't understand why it is the EDC damper that may have this trait. I find the rattling noise does not change depending on whether EDC is on or off, the noise is the same. However, being that I have the privilege of both types of camber tops, it's interesting that the noise is pretty much the same across both, which goes against the sales pitch of the street plates, right? I would love to put in new suspension, but I purchased this car with low miles with EDC for this reason - The shock absorber is half decent

[freakystyly]

My situation was that I had added camber plates and lowering springs (Eibach) and reinstalled the original struts. I noticed the noise immediately after install, thinking it was the plates as well. I lived with it, tightening bolts, wiggling things around, trying to reseat the spring, etc.. The EDC struts were under 60k miles and in hindsight quite corroded at the top of the strut body possibly even leaked. They worked, but seemed a bit "off" due to the stiffer spring install. It's entirely possible somewhere during the swap process that I damaged the struts to introduce the noise. A year later I installed the Koni yellows and back to passively damped silence. Again, just my situation.