[blacksunset200]

I'm planning to buy a 2016 F22 BMW with 60k. Is there anything I should be aware of before buying because I keep hearing some bad stories about that model and don't wanna spend a thousand dollars on repairs.

[Winemaker2]

Originally Posted by blacksunset200

I'm planning to buy a 2016 F22 BMW with 60k. Is there anything I should be aware of before buying because I keep hearing some bad stories about that model and don't wanna spend a thousand dollars on repairs.

I am usually a little weary of purchasing any care with an average of over 15K per year unless it's a screaming deal. Just my 2cts.

[BostonM235xi]

Originally Posted by blacksunset200

I'm planning to buy a 2016 F22 BMW with 60k. Is there anything I should be aware of before buying because I keep hearing some bad stories about that model and don't wanna spend a thousand dollars on repairs.

That is a little high for miles, if your able to bring it to a mechanic or BMW for an inspection. I have a 2016 M235xi with 49k zero issues.

[B58togo]

60K is not a lot of miles for a 2016. 13,500 is the national average, so if this car went into service at the end of 2015, which is perfectly plausible, then it's right on.

OP, I can't speak of the N55, but my 2017 B58 just hit 49K and it hasn't missed a beat. Just lots of Michelin PSS and PS4S, a set of pads around 38K, two sets of plugs, a couple sets of wiper blades and oil changes. I do have the ZF8 kit and will be doing the transmission service around 55K and will also change brake fluid and coolant later this summer. Next set of plugs I'll also change coils as a preventative measure. Be advised, my only reason for frequent plug changes is the fact I'm tuned.

Love this car to death. I didn't buy it to worry about keeping the miles down for the next owner.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by blacksunset200

...don't wanna spend a thousand dollars on repairs.

With BMWs, it's usually best to be prepared to drop that or more for one reason or another. That's separate from consumables. The unfortunate part is you never know ahead of time when that's going to be necessary.

[delvec03]

I've got 73k on my 15 228i. no issues so far. peruse the formus for some higher mileage items to check/replace and you'll be good. oil changes and out!

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by dradernh

With BMWs, it's usually best to be prepared to drop that or more for one reason or another. That's separate from consumables. The unfortunate part is you never know ahead of time when that's going to be necessary.

I thought the same thing. Dropping a grand on a used BMW is peanuts really.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by B58togo

I thought the same thing. Dropping a grand on a used BMW is peanuts really.

Haven't owners who use dealers found that they're expected pay as much as $800 for a new battery - installed, of course!

[morphomeman]

Mileage is not the only factor. How the car was used is more important, but very difficult to ascertain, unless you are buying the car privately from a very honest person. Highway miles are the least damaging and the most likely to result in high numbers. Track miles are the worst by far and the least likely to rack up the numbers.
That said, yes, BMW repairs are expensive. On the other hand, all cars have become more reliable over the years. In the old days, a BMW with 60K miles was a time bomb. Now, maybe 100K is where they really start to break down.
If you can get the price down based on the mileage, pocket the difference and bank it, for those repairs that will inevitably be needed.

[chattanooga240]

For those stating high miles, that is pretty ridiculous seeing as the car is most likely about to be 4 years old.

Signs of abuse would be the more important mitigating factor, as well as detailed maintenance records.

With that being said, if money is a huge concern already and you are scared of repairs, don't buy a German performance car. (out of warranty)

[USA-RET]

Originally Posted by nvmaddog

For those stating high miles, that is pretty ridiculous seeing as the car is most likely about to be 4 years old.

Signs of abuse would be the more important mitigating factor, as well as detailed maintenance records.

With that being said, if money is a huge concern already and you are scared of repairs, don't buy a German performance car. (out of warranty)

This^

[p912guy]

It's wise to be cautious buying a used BMW. However, based on several years of personal ownership of an M235i, multiple reviews of the 2 Series, both as new vehicles and as used aging vehicles, and hundreds of posts on this and other 2 Series forums, I think it's safe to say the 2 Series, especially with the N55 and B58 motors, is a relatively reliable car on par with most Toyota's, Honda's, etc. I have nearly 50K trouble free miles on my car and can safely say it's as good as or better than any vehicle I have owned in the past 40 years. My only gripe is the horrible European car depreciation curve, especially from new. Fortunately, I was able to buy at a good price and the depreciation curve flattens the further you get from new. You're looking at a used 2er so the curve is probably as good as it gets now. For a 4 year old car, 60K miles, (15-17K miles a year) isn't abnormal, so if everything else on the vehicle in a PPI checks out and the price is right, I wouldn't hesitate. My only caution would be prepared for slightly higher maintenance and repair costs for a BMW than for a Honda or Toyota, but even that can be mitigated if you find a good "indy" repair shop. Best of luck.

[chadjamesr]

I purchase a 2016 m235i to use as my daily last year after much of the research you are looking for. Overall the m235i is very reliable in BMW terms. Most likely even outside of the standard BMW terms it would be reliable. Remember the B58 motor that is now used in the Supra was accepted by Toyota as being reliable enough for them to put their name on it without any changes. The N55 has a lot in common with the B58 and most of the problems of the N54 worked out.

None issues with the N55 is the charge pipe, which broke on my stock car at around 41k miles and the crank hub spinning. I highly suggest upgrading the charge pipe to an aluminum one as soon as you get the car as having the OEM breaking while you are out of town is no fun (with or without warranty). If you have the money, I would also upgrade the intercooler while you are add it as the time it takes to install is minimum (charge pipe takes longer then the intercooler to install). These engines are known to run hot so anything you can do to cool them off it going to prolong their lives.

The crank hub failure is typically associated with high HP modified cars, although some stock cars have the problem as well. Typically if it hasn't failed by 30k miles, it is only going to fail if power output is increased significantly. Theoretically the crank hub would only fail when the crank accelerates too fast, which brakes the friction lock between the crank hub and timing chain sprocket. This could be done if the engine has so much power that crank accelerates too fast, or from too aggressive of a down shift causing the crank to suddenly increase in RPM.

Other then those, most people agree that European cars need better maintenance schedules then Japanese cars. If they tell you to change your oil at 10k in a BMW, you should consider doing it at 5k. If they say the coolant is good for lifetime, then you should probably change it every 3 or 4 years. All liquids in a car brake down over time, so changing them early, within reason, will keep the engine in better working condition.

Currently I plan on daily driving my m235i for many years. I've already invested into the charge pipe, intercooler, and a set of winter wheels and all season tires. I'm sure I can get over 100k miles on it with just basic maintenance without a problem. After that things like wheel bearings, seals, timing chain, etc would concern me and I don't want to deal with those type of maintenance.

Hope this helps.

[Winemaker2]

Originally Posted by p912guy

It's wise to be cautious buying a used BMW. However, based on several years of personal ownership of an M235i, multiple reviews of the 2 Series, both as new vehicles and as used aging vehicles, and hundreds of posts on this and other 2 Series forums, I think it's safe to say the 2 Series, especially with the N55 and B58 motors, is a relatively reliable car on par with most Toyota's, Honda's, etc. I have nearly 50K trouble free miles on my car and can safely say it's as good as or better than any vehicle I have owned in the past 40 years. My only gripe is the horrible European car depreciation curve, especially from new. Fortunately, I was able to buy at a good price and the depreciation curve flattens the further you get from new. You're looking at a used 2er so the curve is probably as good as it gets now. For a 4 year old car, 60K miles, (15-17K miles a year) isn't abnormal, so if everything else on the vehicle in a PPI checks out and the price is right, I wouldn't hesitate. My only caution would be prepared for slightly higher maintenance and repair costs for a BMW than for a Honda or Toyota, but even that can be mitigated if you find a good "indy" repair shop. Best of luck.

I don't usually agree with someone stating mileage of 15+K is not abnormal unless those miles were put on a long freeway commute. I emphasize freeway because that is the least harmful to your car. Bottom line is check the maintenance records and have the car checked out by a very reputable service center. We all know maintenance costs are more for a German car, especially our BMWs. But if the car checks out it's worth it.

[aozer]

im curious as to what bad stories you have been hearing about the F22? other than the timing chain issue on the early model 4 cylinder engines, i would say that the 2 series has a reputation of being very reliable.

i actually just traded in my m235i with 50k miles for a toyota because my CPO warranty was going to expire in May and i was a little scared of paying for repair costs out of pocket for a higher mileage bmw, but the car itself had no major issues during my time of ownership. if expensive maintenance costs are something you are scared of then a used BMW probably isnt the car for you. parts for these cars are expensive, so even routine preventative maintenance can get expensive. that is just the way it is.

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by aozer

im curious as to what bad stories you have been hearing about the F22? other than the timing chain issue on the early model 4 cylinder engines, i would say that the 2 series has a reputation of being very reliable.

i actually just traded in my m235i with 50k miles for a toyota because my CPO warranty was going to expire in May and i was a little scared of paying for repair costs out of pocket for a higher mileage bmw, but the car itself had no major issues during my time of ownership. if expensive maintenance costs are something you are scared of then a used BMW probably isnt the car for you. parts for these cars are expensive, so even routine preventative maintenance can get expensive. that is just the way it is.

My most sincere condolences.....

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by B58togo

My most sincere condolences.....

In the late 80s, I went from an M6 to a Sentra. It was the perfect move at the time. I knew what I was doing after having previously gone from a 12-cylinder XKE to a Rabbit.

[happyjack]

OP: which model? although, it probably doesnt matter...both the 4-banger and inline-6 have proven very reliable.

Originally Posted by delvec03

I've got 73k on my 15 228i. no issues so far. peruse the formus for some higher mileage items to check/replace and you'll be good. oil changes and out!

i'm at 84K miles on my '15 228i xdrive...and ive done nothing but routine maintenance and tires.

[aozer]

Originally Posted by B58togo

My most sincere condolences.....

my 235 was useless to me. with my tacoma i can actually enjoy outdoor activities. i guess if all i gave a shit about was looking cool to and from my way to work i would have kept the 235, but that isnt one of my priorities.

edit: just to clarify, i still loved my 235. if i could have kept my 235 and bought the tacoma i would have, but it just didnt make financial sense. i had to prioritize other things and so the f22 had to go.

[MarcoZandrini]

Have the car undergo a pre-purchase inspection performed by an indie shop that specializes in bimmers. Have the shop list all the issues and the total cost to fix each issue using either dealer or OE parts. Find an indie shop at www.bimrs.org.

[EEBreh]

It's all in how the car was treated. I have almost 80k on my M235i. I changed the brake pads for the first time at 70k miles. Maintenance and the condition of the car is everything. Was it broke in properly? Plugs changed at 40k? Was the oil changed at the correct intervals? Was it warmed up properly before high boost? Look at the BMWCCA classifieds and try to find an enthusiast owned car. I'd avoid a leased car.

[ljason8eg]

I'm not quite at 60k miles on my 2014. I've had to replace the oil filter housing gasket (both gaskets developed a small leak) and the coolant expansion tank hose. If either of those haven't been replaced, you'll probably have to soon.

Check the front of the engine near the accessory drive belt for oil. If you see any oil here, 99% chance there's a OFHG or valve cover leak. The expansion tank hose is such a cheap, easy job I'd just do it so you won't get stranded somewhere.