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      05-06-2022, 10:56 AM   #5787
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In all seriousness man my point is on the list of things that could be ignored not having a front plate would be at the top of it in my opinion.
I often stopped cars with no front plate, and it would occasionally lead to other offences, warrants etc.

My two cents, those chicken shit offences give grounds to stop and investigate. If there was nothing else a warning to get if fixed.
In some counties in some states, they have begun taking away traffic stops for minor infractions. Basically those democratic areas are signaling to the people - by way of their actions - that they don't want criminals off of the street and truly do not want laws enforced……all under the veil of "traffic stops and enforcing laws where blacks reside is inherently racist."

I read recently that speed laws in black areas are racist as well as hospitals. It truly has gone down the rabbit hole.
Welcome to Los Angeles
They are trying to bring that crap here to SoCal and we are fighting it. Traffic stops for the minor crap is how the bulk of the baddies get caught.
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This is happening in many places. I saw something just a while back maybe Sedan_Clan posted it, but if I recall traffic fatalities were up in black communities as a result of this lack of enforcement.
Don't forget the Hispanic neighborhoods
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They are trying to bring that crap here to SoCal and we are fighting it. Traffic stops for the minor crap is how the bulk of the baddies get caught.
I can't tell you how many good pinches I got from traffic stops for minor moving and equipment violations.
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My two cents, those chicken shit offences give grounds to stop and investigate. If there was nothing else a warning to get if fixed.
I got a "no front plate" ticket in Nebraska. I guess he couldn't get me for speeding (THANK YOU radar detector!!!!!!!) so he had to get me for something.

He passed me, fell back and lit me up. As he was walking up to the passenger window I heard on his radio "affirmative California." Then he wrote me the fix-it-ticket.

Getting it signed-off was humorous. We were visiting our son in Santa Cruz and his apartment was across from a park. There were 3 local constabulary hanging out at the park so I went over to ask one of them to sign-off on the ticket (the NE trooper checked the box for "no rear plate" on the ticket). One of them asked why I just stay away from Nebraska, one mentioned it was ticky-tack and the 3rd signed it off. I did learn that in the PRK the front plate has to be affixed to the bumper and just propped-up in the windshield isn't good enough.
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I drive a stretch of road that transitions from 50 to 40 mph. The 40mph sign has been missing for months. If I continue at 50mph until the next sign, will I get a ticket in that zone?
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I drive a stretch of road that transitions from 50 to 40 mph. The 40mph sign has been missing for months. If continue at 50mph until the next sign, will I get a ticket in that zone?
You might, but you'd also have a case for dismissal since there is no posted speed limit [when there should be] and it's the government's responsibility to make sure such things are posted (…and unobstructed). If I were you, I would take a photograph of the area with the missing/damaged sign and keep it readily available for when you need it.
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My two cents, those chicken shit offences give grounds to stop and investigate. If there was nothing else a warning to get if fixed.
I got a "no front plate" ticket in Nebraska. I guess he couldn't get me for speeding (THANK YOU radar detector!!!!!!!) so he had to get me for something.

He passed me, fell back and lit me up. As he was walking up to the passenger window I heard on his radio "affirmative California." Then he wrote me the fix-it-ticket.

Getting it signed-off was humorous. We were visiting our son in Santa Cruz and his apartment was across from a park. There were 3 local constabulary hanging out at the park so I went over to ask one of them to sign-off on the ticket (the NE trooper checked the box for "no rear plate" on the ticket). One of them asked why I just stay away from Nebraska, one mentioned it was ticky-tack and the 3rd signed it off. I did learn that in the PRK the front plate has to be affixed to the bumper and just propped-up in the windshield isn't good enough.
Simply has to be "permanently" affixed, no Sedan_Clan
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My two cents, those chicken shit offences give grounds to stop and investigate. If there was nothing else a warning to get if fixed.
I got a "no front plate" ticket in Nebraska. I guess he couldn't get me for speeding (THANK YOU radar detector!!!!!!!) so he had to get me for something.

He passed me, fell back and lit me up. As he was walking up to the passenger window I heard on his radio "affirmative California." Then he wrote me the fix-it-ticket.

Getting it signed-off was humorous. We were visiting our son in Santa Cruz and his apartment was across from a park. There were 3 local constabulary hanging out at the park so I went over to ask one of them to sign-off on the ticket (the NE trooper checked the box for "no rear plate" on the ticket). One of them asked why I just stay away from Nebraska, one mentioned it was ticky-tack and the 3rd signed it off. I did learn that in the PRK the front plate has to be affixed to the bumper and just propped-up in the windshield isn't good enough.
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The front plate has to be affixed to the bumper. I like the tow hitch mounts. Easy removal.
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My two cents, those chicken shit offences give grounds to stop and investigate. If there was nothing else a warning to get if fixed.
I got a "no front plate" ticket in Nebraska. I guess he couldn't get me for speeding (THANK YOU radar detector!!!!!!!) so he had to get me for something.

He passed me, fell back and lit me up. As he was walking up to the passenger window I heard on his radio "affirmative California." Then he wrote me the fix-it-ticket.

Getting it signed-off was humorous. We were visiting our son in Santa Cruz and his apartment was across from a park. There were 3 local constabulary hanging out at the park so I went over to ask one of them to sign-off on the ticket (the NE trooper checked the box for "no rear plate" on the ticket). One of them asked why I just stay away from Nebraska, one mentioned it was ticky-tack and the 3rd signed it off. I did learn that in the PRK the front plate has to be affixed to the bumper and just propped-up in the windshield isn't good enough.
Simply has to be "permanently" affixed, no Sedan_Clan
The front plate has to be affixed to the bumper. I like the tow hitch mounts. Easy removal.
Do you stop people with no front plate?
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My two cents, those chicken shit offences give grounds to stop and investigate. If there was nothing else a warning to get if fixed.
I got a "no front plate" ticket in Nebraska. I guess he couldn't get me for speeding (THANK YOU radar detector!!!!!!!) so he had to get me for something.

He passed me, fell back and lit me up. As he was walking up to the passenger window I heard on his radio "affirmative California." Then he wrote me the fix-it-ticket.

Getting it signed-off was humorous. We were visiting our son in Santa Cruz and his apartment was across from a park. There were 3 local constabulary hanging out at the park so I went over to ask one of them to sign-off on the ticket (the NE trooper checked the box for "no rear plate" on the ticket). One of them asked why I just stay away from Nebraska, one mentioned it was ticky-tack and the 3rd signed it off. I did learn that in the PRK the front plate has to be affixed to the bumper and just propped-up in the windshield isn't good enough.
Simply has to be "permanently" affixed, no Sedan_Clan
The front plate has to be affixed to the bumper. I like the tow hitch mounts. Easy removal.
Do you stop people with no front plate?
It depends. The best answer I can give you is…..


…..yes, I sometimes stop people because their vehicle lacks a front plate……but, no, I don't stop people because their vehicle lacks a front plate. In other words, the impetus for the stop isn't simply for that reason; it's merely my legal justification for the stop. I could truly care less. I'm usually looking for something more.
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My two cents, those chicken shit offences give grounds to stop and investigate. If there was nothing else a warning to get if fixed.
I got a "no front plate" ticket in Nebraska. I guess he couldn't get me for speeding (THANK YOU radar detector!!!!!!!) so he had to get me for something.

He passed me, fell back and lit me up. As he was walking up to the passenger window I heard on his radio "affirmative California." Then he wrote me the fix-it-ticket.

Getting it signed-off was humorous. We were visiting our son in Santa Cruz and his apartment was across from a park. There were 3 local constabulary hanging out at the park so I went over to ask one of them to sign-off on the ticket (the NE trooper checked the box for "no rear plate" on the ticket). One of them asked why I just stay away from Nebraska, one mentioned it was ticky-tack and the 3rd signed it off. I did learn that in the PRK the front plate has to be affixed to the bumper and just propped-up in the windshield isn't good enough.
Simply has to be "permanently" affixed, no Sedan_Clan
The front plate has to be affixed to the bumper. I like the tow hitch mounts. Easy removal.
Do you stop people with no front plate?
It depends. The best answer I can give you is…..


…..yes, I sometimes stop people because their vehicle lacks a front plate……but, no, I don't stop people because their vehicle lacks a front plate. In other words, the impetus for the stop isn't simply for that reason; it's merely my legal justification for the stop. I could truly care less. I'm usually looking for something more.
Got it. That's what I expected. Good answer.

PS - maybe that's why I've never been stopped for that.
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…..yes, I sometimes stop people because their vehicle lacks a front plate……but, no, I don't stop people because their vehicle lacks a front plate. In other words, the impetus for the stop isn't simply for that reason; it's merely my legal justification for the stop. I could truly care less. I'm usually looking for something more.
I'd say if you're Spidey Senses are tingling.....but a copper I know got into shit for saying that while giving his evidence rather than articulating his grounds and a gun/drug case got tossed for it.
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It depends. The best answer I can give you is…..


…..yes, I sometimes stop people because their vehicle lacks a front plate……but, no, I don't stop people because their vehicle lacks a front plate. In other words, the impetus for the stop isn't simply for that reason; it's merely my legal justification for the stop. I could truly care less. I'm usually looking for something more.
I'd say if you're Spidey Senses are tingling.....but a copper I know got into shit for saying that while giving his evidence rather than articulating his grounds and a gun/drug case got tossed for it.
Yeah, unfortunately our experience articulated using that verbiage doesn't fly. People who aren't working in the field (…and who generally lack social/situational awareness) just won't/don't get it.
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I've been off of work the last 3 weeks. I don't return until Wednesday.
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I've been off of work the last 3 weeks. I don't return until Wednesday.
Well.... THAT explains the increase in crime!!
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Well.... THAT explains the increase in crime!!


They better run. I'll be back in 72 hours.
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Stay safe! Thank you for what you do.
Thanks brother. I appreciate the support. I'm admittedly dreading the end of vacation - and the subsequent return to work tomorrow - but I'm already planning a Santa Barbara road trip in August and a winter cabin/snowboard trip in Nov/Dec. Looking forward to being off of work is the only thing that gets me through the work day.
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