Return a product after 1.5 years? What is the law?

2000cs · 10-30-2018, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

The hell are you nerds talking about

Future client right there.

mecheng77 · 10-30-2018, 07:40 PM

You are a serious tight wad, put it on Kijiji and take 50-70% of what you paid for it and go treat you and the lady to a nice dinner. No wonder there are so many lawyers in the US

Hawkeye · 10-31-2018, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 2000cs

Future client right there.

I am already an unwilling client... all these auditors do is increase the work I have to do

SOX is the bane of my existence right now...

MrRoboto · 10-31-2018, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by usshelena725

Shame man, you're undercharging. I billed out at $385/hr for my last firm. LOL.

Is it me or have accountants hourly charges gotten way out of hand.

qba335i · 10-31-2018, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MrRoboto

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Originally Posted by usshelena725

Shame man, you're undercharging. I billed out at $385/hr for my last firm. LOL.

Is it me or have accountants hourly charges gotten way out of hand.

You should see some invoices for legal fees. We have clients paying 800-1000 an hour for estate planning.

I have seen 100k bills for trust decanting.

2000cs · 10-31-2018, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Is it me or have accountants hourly charges gotten way out of hand.

I am not a accountant but I am responsible for hiring our audit firm, and while the fees have increased (especially since SarBox even for non-compliant clients), the risks they bear and the extra efforts required for their own compliance are much higher. There is really no direct value added for clients in this (as is often the case with regulation), but indirectly we all benefit, I suppose, from the added assurance and diligence. We use a top tier firm; I have limited experience with the mid-tier so that could be different.

By the way all fees and expenses are negotiable.

Joekerr · 10-31-2018, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Is it me or have accountants hourly charges gotten way out of hand.

Well, I'm learning mine are too low. BTW - do you need an accountant? I charge very reasonable rates...for you....$210/hr. Bargoon!

Run Silent · 10-31-2018, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Is it me or have accountants hourly charges gotten way out of hand.

My last client engagement fee for total assurance, tax consultancy, and M&A advisory totaled approximately $18,000,000 per year.

MrRoboto · 10-31-2018, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by usshelena725

My last client engagement fee for total assurance, tax consultancy, and M&A advisory totaled approximately $18,000,000 per year.

I'm in the wrong business.

wren57 · 10-31-2018, 11:23 AM

Is this thread a joke?

Guy buys a product that isn't advertised to work with his vehicle and wants a refund on an opened and used product 18 months later?

"Hey, Foot Locker, I know I bought women's size 6 shoes last year, and they're a little scuffed, but they don't fit. I demand a refund or I'm calling my attorney!"

Run Silent · 10-31-2018, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRoboto

I'm in the wrong business.

LOL, bear in mind that this is barely above materiality for them. I believe their gross sales were somewhere in the neighborhood of $35,000,000,000. So not a small company.

are0lies · 10-31-2018, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wren57

Is this thread a joke?

Guy buys a product that isn't advertised to work with his vehicle and wants a refund on an opened and used product 18 months later?

"Hey, Foot Locker, I know I bought women's size 6 shoes last year, and they're a little scuffed, but they don't fit. I demand a refund or I'm calling my attorney!"

Run Silent · 10-31-2018, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye

I am already an unwilling client... all these auditors do is increase the work I have to do

SOX is the bane of my existence right now...

SOX = Accountant Full Employment Act.

Soul_Glo · 11-01-2018, 01:27 PM

Y'all taking the piss without even asking for or understanding the full facts.

The product is advertised to work with the F30. Even says it on their site but won't even do that no more.

Anyhow the NCA. Is all over them. They have to release a fix or refund me.

Run Silent · 11-01-2018, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Surg_Capt_R

Y'all taking the piss without even asking for or understanding the full facts.

The product is advertised to work with the F30. Even says it on their site but won't even do that no more.

Anyhow the Navada Consumper Dept. Is all over them. They have to release a fix or refund me.

Huh? My momma dern learned me how to talk bestest. Good grief, man. I live in Tennessee and even my grammar isn't that poor.

Here, fixed it for you:

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Y'all taking the piss without even asking for or understanding the full facts.
Everyone is talking piss without even asking for, or understanding, the full facts.

The product is advertised to work with the F30. Even says it on their site but won't even do that no more.
The product is advertised to work with the F30. It is noted as such on their website, however, it doesn't even do that anymore.

Anyhow the Navada Consumper Dept. Is all over them. They have to release a fix or refund me.
Anyways, the Nevada Consumer Dept. is all over them and they are required to release a fix or refund the purchase price.

1) There is no such thing as the Nevada Consumer Department. There is the Nevada Consumer Affairs Office and also the Nevada Bureau of Consumer Protection. I am not sure which you are referring to.

2) Per both of the government website, irrespective of which one you are talking about:

BCP and/or the CAO cannot represent individual consumers in any lawsuits, nor can BCP/CAO assist individual consumers with their own private legal disputes.

Summation: Neither can force the company to refund you any money.

.

TheWatchGuy · 11-01-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Surg_Capt_R

Y'all taking the piss without even asking for or understanding the full facts.

The product is advertised to work with the F30. Even says it on their site but won't even do that no more.

Anyhow the Navada Consumper Dept. Is all over them. They have to release a fix or refund me.

isnt the f30 a 3 series and you have a 4 series?

no where does it list the 4 series as being supported. sounds like you didnt understand the full facts.

unless they edited this list of Fxx support. http://www.bavariantechnic.com/FmodelSupport.aspx

F01, F02, F03 - 2009+ 7-series models
F07 - 2011+ 5-series Grand Tourismo
F10 - 2011+ 5-series
F11 - 2011+ 5-series wagon
F12 - 2012+ 6-series Coupe (including M6)
F13 - 2012+ 6-series Convertible (including M6)
F20 - 2011+ 1-series
F25 - 2011+ X3
F30 - 2012+ 3-series
RR4 - 2011+ Rolls Royce Ghost

Soul_Glo · 11-01-2018, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by usshelena725

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surg_Capt_R

Y'all taking the piss without even asking for or understanding the full facts.

The product is advertised to work with the F30. Even says it on their site but won't even do that no more.

Anyhow the Navada Consumper Dept. Is all over them. They have to release a fix or refund me.

Huh? My momma dern learned me how to talk bestest. Good grief, man. I live in Tennessee and even my grammar isn't that poor.

Here, fixed it for you:

Quote:

Y'all taking the piss without even asking for or understanding the full facts.
Everyone is talking piss without even asking for, or understanding, the full facts.

The product is advertised to work with the F30. Even says it on their site but won't even do that no more.
The product is advertised to work with the F30. It is noted as such on their website, however, it doesn't even do that anymore.

Anyhow the Navada Consumper Dept. Is all over them. They have to release a fix or refund me.
Anyways, the Nevada Consumer Dept. is all over them and they are required to release a fix or refund the purchase price.

1) There is no such thing as the Nevada Consumer Department. There is the Nevada Consumer Affairs Office and also the Nevada Bureau of Consumer Protection. I am not sure which you are referring to.

2) Per both of the government website, irrespective of which one you are talking about:

BCP and/or the CAO cannot represent individual consumers in any lawsuits, nor can BCP/CAO assist individual consumers with their own private legal disputes.

Summation: Neither can force the company to refund you any money.

.

I hope they do manage to scare the bejesus out of them. Yes the NCA cannot force them but may be the attorney can.

Soul_Glo · 11-01-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surg_Capt_R

Y'all taking the piss without even asking for or understanding the full facts.

The product is advertised to work with the F30. Even says it on their site but won't even do that no more.

Anyhow the Navada Consumper Dept. Is all over them. They have to release a fix or refund me.

isnt the f30 a 3 series and you have a 4 series?

no where does it list the 4 series as being supported. sounds like you didnt understand the full facts.

unless they edited this list of Fxx support. http://www.bavariantechnic.com/FmodelSupport.aspx

F01, F02, F03 - 2009+ 7-series models
F07 - 2011+ 5-series Grand Tourismo
F10 - 2011+ 5-series
F11 - 2011+ 5-series wagon
F12 - 2012+ 6-series Coupe (including M6)
F13 - 2012+ 6-series Convertible (including M6)
F20 - 2011+ 1-series
F25 - 2011+ X3
F30 - 2012+ 3-series
RR4 - 2011+ Rolls Royce Ghost

When I purchased it they said I could select 3 and it would work on the 4. I cannot even select individual modules on the 4 anymore. It has also stopped working with the 3.

nyalpine90 · 11-01-2018, 01:47 PM

OP drives F80???

what happen to F32

??

Run Silent · 11-01-2018, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Surg_Capt_R

I hope they do manage to scare the bejesus out of them. Yes the NCA cannot force them but may be the attorney can.

An attorney cannot force a respondent to do anything. Only a judge can enact a legal decree. Good luck finding an attorney to bring this claim to suit, with you being out of the country.

Joekerr · 11-01-2018, 01:52 PM

You are ignoring the most interesting aspect of this all Surg_Capt_R - how much is your attorney charging you?

Run Silent · 11-01-2018, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joekerr

You are ignoring the most interesting aspect of this all Surg_Capt_R - how much is your attorney charging you?

I'll bet you it's more than my billable rates!

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mecheng77 Colonel 1006 Rep 2,243 Posts Drives: 2007 328i / 2014 M235i Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Ontario Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00] [0.00]	You are a serious tight wad, put it on Kijiji and take 50-70% of what you paid for it and go treat you and the lady to a nice dinner. No wonder there are so many lawyers in the US
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Soul_Glo Major General 13346 Rep 7,484 Posts Drives: G20 Join Date: May 2013 Location: Manhattan, NYC iTrader: (1)	Y'all taking the piss without even asking for or understanding the full facts. The product is advertised to work with the F30. Even says it on their site but won't even do that no more. Anyhow the NCA. Is all over them. They have to release a fix or refund me.
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nyalpine90 Lieutenant General 7431 Rep 11,843 Posts Drives: MY24 G01 AW Msport Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: L.I. NY iTrader: (4) Garage List 2016 BMW X4 [9.33]	OP drives F80??? what happen to F32 ??
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Joekerr Banned 7929 Rep 1,923 Posts Drives: 2017 Audi S6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	You are ignoring the most interesting aspect of this all Surg_Capt_R - how much is your attorney charging you?
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