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      12-03-2020, 02:22 AM   #89
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What design language is this called?
That comes from the i3 and i8



Don't disagree with the origins, but the i3 and i8 execution is so much more cohesive
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      12-03-2020, 04:01 AM   #90
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This is just another BMW that will look a lot better in black

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Are people really that badge blind ?. It looks like one of those cheap Chinese knock offs, but of what I'm not sure. Sorry I hate to be so negative but that thing is horrid.
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      12-03-2020, 06:40 AM   #92
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It's called busy.

And can't believe I'm in the minority when I say this car is truly heinous.
Youre not in minority. Do a poll here and you'lll see.


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Also all the aftermarket vendors, who also happen to be the bimmerpost sponsors, are not exactly happy over all the random dudes with “strong opinions” because it negatively impacts their business. The sponsors should have every right to decide who posts here and who doesn’t.
If the site lets sponsors dominate content (and if that's the trade) than it reflects negatively on the site itself, a lot more so. Before it was sponsors trying to drum up business, but if that changed to censorship... pretty weak.

Its ok to turn it into a market place for sponsors with comment function on products where they moderate bad comments, while also posting 30 sec videos about how they love community and talk about new product. I think if it goes that way it is their decision, just dont want the the pretence of some free speaking forum. Being rude is bad, but well argued negative view is OK.

BMW ix spirit animal for me is firmly this and I cant shake off this disproportionate car, hopefully a facelift will address this strange grille tiny eyes big cheek situation. From side and rear it looks alright, not pretty but ok. Front is bad. And there in lies the problem with new BMW designs - they say same old things, but cars look different - made by someone who doesnt care about the looks. Car is an emotional object, it is like clothing, you want to look good in it. But there is also a very different approach to clothing and cars - you dont care how it looks, you either after comfort or features. IX is about comfort and features, and looks are secondary. It is an embarassing front graphic, but range is also bad (should be more talked about) and price will be massive for it also. I think BMW isnt quite there with technology being private co and small in scale.

Rimac/VW/Porsche have stolen a march on BMW in electric tech, and I suspect their diesel gate scandal will end up helping them more than we know in few years. Bring it on!
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      12-03-2020, 06:57 AM   #93
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perhaps they don't want it to sell well as the profits aren't great on it as compared to say x5.
So start by designing a fugly car and then insult the customers by calling them boomers etc.
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      12-03-2020, 07:35 AM   #94
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Youre not in minority. Do a poll here and you'lll see.
Like the G80 poll where the results showed a lot of people actually liked the new design which led to the haters whining that the poll was skewed because they couldn't come to grips with the fact that their opinion is just that?
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      12-03-2020, 07:53 AM   #95
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Well, to be fair, the G80 poll is within the G8X forums, not in the general/public discussion area for a greater number of members to vote in it, leading to less than 400 votes, and on top of that, many banned members do not have access to that poll or the ability to vote because of its post location, which could be considered sampling bias.

Even still, despite that, its clear representation that it is a polarizing design, with "strongly dislike" outweighing other options, more so than "love" or "like" the two positive options.
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grill is ghastly no matter what you slap it on, sorry
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Definitely doesn't look as bad as I'd feared!
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      12-03-2020, 09:39 AM   #98
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Well, to be fair, the G80 poll is within the G8X forums, not in the general/public discussion area for a greater number of members to vote in it, leading to less than 400 votes, and on top of that, many banned members do not have access to that poll or the ability to vote because of its post location, which could be considered sampling bias.

Even still, despite that, its clear representation that it is a polarizing design, with "strongly dislike" outweighing other options, more so than "love" or "like" the two positive options.
To be fair it's basically 31.66% like and 34.56% strongly dislike so 50/50. However it's pretty clear the "strongly dislike" camp is more vocal because if you go by the thread comments alone you would think it would the poll would have ended up 90% dislike. The reality is that the general populace doesn't have the same strong negative opinions which is why the big Lexus and Audi grilles have become commonplace and why BMW is going the same direction. I'm not an apologist as to me this looks fine for an EV and I didn't have grand illusions that BMW's first real EV SUV was going to look sexy and sporty based on the appearance of most EV's which are somewhat odd looking out of necessity to reduce drag.

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Like the G80 poll where the results showed a lot of people actually liked the new design which led to the haters whining that the poll was skewed because they couldn't come to grips with the fact that their opinion is just that?
thats because everybody who disliked it got banned from that forum
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thats because everybody who disliked it got banned from that forum
People keep saying that but really how many posters really got banned relative to the 379 that have voted? There were a few posters that were literally frothing at the mouth angry that needed to go but was it really that much?
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      12-03-2020, 09:58 AM   #101
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I think it depends on the buyer. Tesla buyers seem to accept the shoddy workmanship, poor interiors, etc. b/c they like the giant screen, the updates, the cool and fun tech stuff that Tesla provides and many seem to not want to go back to regular cars (at least those I've spoken with who own Teslas).

Me OTOH, I despised them as soon as I drove the first Model S and whenever I've ridden in them since b/c the crappy leather, poor quality build, etc. appeared to be worse than that found in Acura and Honda products and was not acceptable to me for a $70K car let alone a $100K+ car.

With that said, Tesla does have 2 major advantages - their much larger supercharger network and generally higher driving range vs. EVs for traditional car mfgs.
unless the supercharger network becomes the industry standard the electric car industry will never have chance against gasoline. really not smart to have competing charging networks ON TOP of vehicles.
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People keep saying that but really how many posters really got banned relative to the 379 that have voted? There were a few posters that were literally frothing at the mouth angry that needed to go but was it really that much?
theres a 50+ page thread in this forum from f8x people who were banned from the g8x forum. id say quite a bit..
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I like it. Not sure about the black pieces here and there, but overall it looks good for an EV. Proportions look right. Wheels are not the best but definitely better than Tesla wheels.
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First time I've seen that color and I like it. An earlier poster said the grills (snout) look better on this car that the 4--I agree, but I'm still reminded of the Daimler SP-250 I once owned. People called it "fish mouth". I'm sure a similar sobriquet will come into fashion for the new BMW design language.
I wonder how compliant the suspension will be. The problem with my X5 40e was that it really didn't have much compliance over bumps and I think that was because product planners put stiff suspensions on SUV's for load carrying purposes. Initial drivers of the upcoming VW ID.4 say that it has a very compliant suspension while only being a "little" tippy. Really hoping it's a little smaller than the X5, which was too large for a good grocery hauler in a city. I'm also reluctant to go for the compromised combo ICE/PHEV/EV platform, compared to the dedicated EV platforms coming from other German car companies. I guess one will need to wait and see if there are weight and interior space compromises compared to a dedicate EV platform. If the shared platform allows BMW to come in at a lower price than dedicated EV platforms, BMW will be proven correct in it's transition to EV plans. If not, I fear BMW will not fare so well.
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Like the G80 poll where the results showed a lot of people actually liked the new design which led to the haters whining that the poll was skewed because they couldn't come to grips with the fact that their opinion is just that?
Yeah man, asking people who want a G80 on a G80 forum if they want a G80, like that's gonna throw up a surprise result.

For the record, you can buy it if you like, just dont get upset someone doesnt like it. Some people bought Multiplas and Aztecs and they couldnt give a tiny rats ass what people thought. I respect that. I still think cars were ugly.

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Love the new iX.
Nicely done as usual.
I'll take one in a Black of some type that is yet to be determined.

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Tbh, I like it. The pig nose grille looks way better on the X-series than it does on the M3/M4. Also glad to see the growth of electric cars - might not feel and sound like the badass engines we're used to, but given how young the technology is, the future possibilities of EVs are endless!
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Yeah man, asking people who want a G80 on a G80 forum if they want a G80, like that's gonna throw up a surprise result.

For the record, you can buy it if you like, just dont get upset someone doesnt like it. Some people bought Multiplas and Aztecs and they couldnt give a tiny rats ass what people thought. I respect that. I still think cars were ugly.
I'm not buying one right now and I'm not upset. I'm also an adult and can only take so much of grown men whining over and over about the appearance of automobile grilles. If there was 20 posters each making a single post or two that they didn't like it that's one thing but it was a small handful of posters repeating themselves over and over and over making the threads unreadable. That's why things got cleaned up.
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I hope BMW change designer and soon as possible, because cars which come out in last year are terrible.

Who bill buy this thing?
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Over and over again like Nelly ft. Tim McGraw?
I'm a heavy metal guy so forgive me for not picking up on this comment.
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