[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by ///Mobbin

Has anyone confirmed that coolant and oil temp display in Harry's LapTimer?

I'm sure it will work but curious if someone has tried it already.

I'm currently shaking down my new expanded Harry's Lap Timer setup, so I am still working things out... But it looks like coolant temp is part of the overlay.

[Uridian]

I get oil temp with ELM327, Torque Pro and Nexus 5.

[Blackcross]

Originally Posted by Uridian

I get oil temp with ELM327, Torque Pro and Nexus 5.

hey Uridian, what build date is your car?

[Chr2004]

Anyone have any clue how create a user defined PID? OBD fusion tech support says that they do not support oil temp on the 14' M235i, but one can create a user defined PID to extract this information from the ECU.

[///Mobbin]

Originally Posted by Chr2004

Anyone have any clue how create a user defined PID? OBD fusion tech support says that they do not support oil temp on the 14' M235i, but one can create a user defined PID to extract this information from the ECU.

There is a standard oil temp PID, and it doesn't work for many many vehicle models, but it sounds like it does work for the M235i if folks are getting it to work with Torque on Android. I'm also curious if anyone has seen it also working on the 'Timer Display' in Harry's.

[///Mobbin]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

I'm currently shaking down my new expanded Harry's Lap Timer setup, so I am still working things out... But it looks like coolant temp is part of the overlay.

Thanks, I am actually more specifically curious if the oil-temp displays on the "Timer View" in Harry's while it's running. This is useful in monitoring temps while at the track.

Harry's will alert you if you reach a "warning" level and then an "error" level.

Harry has set the temps to predefined values as follows:
Oil Warning - 238 degrees Fahrenheit (Orange)
Oil Error - 302 degrees Fahrenheit (Red)
Coolant Warning - 221 degrees Fahrenheit (Orange)
Coolant Error - 239 degrees Fahrenheit (Red)

Harry mentioned that he consulted some knowledgeable folks when setting these values and they seem to be on-par with my research. If I see orange on the display I might do a cool down lap, if I see red, I better pit at the next opportunity.

[///Mobbin]

Here's an example from another vehicle where coolant temp is displayed but oil temp is not functioning:


Here's another example with both working and an oil temperature warning indicated:


(Apologies for large pics)

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by ///Mobbin

Thanks, I am actually more specifically curious if the oil-temp displays on the "Timer View" in Harry's while it's running. This is useful in monitoring temps while at the track.

Harry's will alert you if you reach a "warning" level and then an "error" level.

Harry has set the temps to predefined values as follows:
Oil Warning - 238 degrees Fahrenheit (Orange)
Oil Error - 302 degrees Fahrenheit (Red)
Coolant Warning - 221 degrees Fahrenheit (Orange)
Coolant Error - 239 degrees Fahrenheit (Red)

Harry mentioned that he consulted some knowledgeable folks when setting these values and they seem to be on-par with my research. If I see orange on the display I might do a cool down lap, if I see red, I better pit at the next opportunity.

Interesting.
I do not get any oil temp information in either HLT or OBD Link. It would be helpful to be able to modify the settings for warnings. My car's normal coolant temp is in HLT's warning range.

[Uridian]

Originally Posted by Blackcross

hey Uridian, what build date is your car?

March 2, 2014

[Zooks527]

And Torque is showing oil temp on my 4/7/15 build M235xi.

[///Mobbin]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

Interesting.
I do not get any oil temp information in either HLT or OBD Link. It would be helpful to be able to modify the settings for warnings. My car's normal coolant temp is in HLT's warning range.

Thanks for posting, interesting that some folks have access to oil temp and some do not ... I wonder why?

Also, it would be really nice if Harry would allow those temps to be user configurable, I've suggested this to him in the past, please create an account and ask Harry for this feature to show there is a need out there:
Harry's Laptimer Forum - re Warning Temperatures

[scottomfg]

Hey Folks, exciting news today for iOS users. Automatic has come out with a new generation of it's OBD adapter, which has tons of new features, not the least of which is it allows a second app (besides their own Automatic app) to access the dongle via Bluetooth. This instantly makes this the best iOS compatible bluetooth OBD reader, and unlike a lot of the cheap Chinese grey label ones we've had to use previously, this one should be top notch quality and come with real product support through Automatic, and all that that entails. Very exciting. They've already announced compatibility with DashCommand, Harry's LapTimer, and OBD Fusion, which is all I need, that's for sure. Yes, it's a little more pricey at $99, but if it works like it should, it'll be well worth it.

Here is a link to the release info: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/05/19/...w-car-adapter/

And it's also available from Amazon (if you are a Primer member like me, you always prefer to order everything from Amazon): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...3DT4IOE573ACGP

I will be ordering one shortly, and will share my experiences here. I expect many aspects to be improved over my current Elm Wifi OBD set-up, most importantly, it should auto-connect seamlessly (since it's bluetooth now, vs wifi), and I'm hoping that it doesn't draw power when the car is off. Fingers crossed.

[Zooks527]

Originally Posted by ///Mobbin

Thanks for posting, interesting that some folks have access to oil temp and some do not ... I wonder why?
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Likely a change in the ECU going from BMW specific PIDs to industry standard. If I had to bet, I'd bet there's a hard cut date when the ability to read it came on.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by scottomfg

Hey Folks, exciting news today for iOS users. Automatic has come out with a new generation of it's OBD adapter, which has tons of new features, not the least of which is it allows a second app (besides their own Automatic app) to access the dongle via Bluetooth. This instantly makes this the best iOS compatible bluetooth OBD reader, and unlike a lot of the cheap Chinese grey label ones we've had to use previously, this one should be top notch quality and come with real product support through Automatic, and all that that entails. Very exciting. They've already announced compatibility with DashCommand, Harry's LapTimer, and OBD Fusion, which is all I need, that's for sure. Yes, it's a little more pricey at $99, but if it works like it should, it'll be well worth it.

Here is a link to the release info: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/05/19/...w-car-adapter/" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.macrumors...r-adapter/</a>

And it's also available from Amazon (if you are a Primer member like me, you always prefer to order everything from Amazon): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...3DT4IOE573ACGP" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.amazon.co...IOE573ACGP</a>

I will be ordering one shortly, and will share my experiences here. I expect many aspects to be improved over my current Elm Wifi OBD set-up, most importantly, it should auto-connect seamlessly (since it's bluetooth now, vs wifi), and I'm hoping that it doesn't draw power when the car is off. Fingers crossed.

I don't see much value in the Automatic app integration, so until I see Harry post some measurements, I'll stick with the fastest OBD interface, the MX WiFi.

[scottomfg]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

I don't see much value in the Automatic app integration, so until I see Harry post some measurements, I'll stick with my MX WiFi.

Yeah, me either, that's why I literally didn't even mention it. FYI, Harry has already updated his apps to specifically support the new dongle.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

With the MX WiFi, my iPhone automatically joins the OBD interface's wireless network, just like my iPhone automatically joins any other known wireless network. Not sure why Bluetooth is any better in this regard. :

[Blackcross]

Originally Posted by Uridian

March 2, 2014

Thx.

I'll be seeing my buddy on Friday. he's a mechanic so we'll see if we can get a reading from the ECU and determine if there is a custom PID.

[scottomfg]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

With the MX WiFi, my iPhone automatically joins the OBD interface's wireless network, just like my iPhone automatically joins any other known wireless network. Not sure why Bluetooth is any better in this regard. :

Well, if it works for you, that's great, more power to you. As the reviews on Amazon show though, people tend to have pretty significant connection issues with that set up. This is because it's basically a hack, wifi wasn't made for that purpose, and it's a very kludgy set-up to have an interfaceless dongle create it's own network to be connected to (though a testament to ingenuity and making something work in Apple's walled garden). And, many people have problems with their phone's data connection once it connects to the internet-less wifi network created by the dongle. But, I digress . . .

Low-power Bluetooth is expressly made for this kind of data connection, so it should have less problems and certainly less obstacles. Lower-power consumption, no interference with internet connections, and a nice pure data connection (and not a network protocol connection) is probably going to be a clear winner. That's why I'm excited we finally get a solid solution supported by both Apple and the 3rd parties we were already using--at last!

[stroids88]

Just ordered (6/15/15) OBDLink MX Bluetooth Scan Tool. Decided to use the Android tablet I have instead of using my iPhone. I'll post some details after I get it and set it up.
Monoblock, fantastic post, this site rocks and great thread. Thanks Monoblock and all who took time to give their input!

[Nutballa]

I got iOS so I can't use Torque app.

[wjones14]

I bought this mini OBD2 Wi-Fi adapter (IKKEGOL 10308BOR Vgate iCar 2 Mini OBD2 Wi-Fi) from amazon to use with an iPod Touch 5th generation:

http://www.amazon.com/IKKEGOL-10308B...HSFE60Y1YZ4HXW

I paired this adapter with the Dash Command iOS app ($10) and have been using it for a week or so. Pros and Cons of the OBD2 adapter and the Dash Command app:

Pros:

1. Dash Command connects to the adapter's wi-fi signal every time
2. There are a wealth of M235i PIDs recognized by Dash Command - too many to list
3. The OBD2 adapter is tiny and totally non-intrusive
4. No lost connections so far
5. The iCar OBD2 adapter automatically goes to sleep 30 minutes after ignition is shut off
6. The iCar OBD2 adapter has an on/off power switch

Cons:

1. The iCar OBD2 adapter instructions are hideously translated
2. Dash Command is not intuitive at first, and user manual is sketchy

The main reason I bought the adapter and app were because of the lack of coolant and oil temp gauges in the car. Mission accomplished as you can see in the iPod Touch screenshot.

I am still learning how to use Dash Command, as you can also see in the screenshot. The coolant temp gauge was already part of the default gauge screen. I think there were 6 gauges on the screen, but not the oil temp, so I removed all the others except the coolant temp gauge, resized it, and then added the oil temp gauge. I will make both gauges the same size, and possibly add the color markings on the dial for green and red, once I figure out how to do it... The good news is that there is a dedicated forum where the developers answer questions directly.

I definitely am pleased with this purchase. All that's left is to decide what type of mount I want to use - for now I just stand the iPod up in the cup holder and it's actually fine there.

[youbaoeke2]

Awesome info! Thank you very much.BMW ICOM