[NEYUGN]

I have a 2014 228i Dinan stage 4 with m-sport package without the m-sport brakes. Just have the P337 option which is 1 piston and 330x24 rotors. Currently I get a little brake fade from doing long period spirited driving and was wondering if I should get M-performance brakes or should I just upgrade rotors and pads?

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by NEYUGN

I have a 2014 228i Dinan stage 4 with m-sport package without the m-sport brakes. Just have the P337 option which is 1 piston and 330x24 rotors. Currently I get a little brake fade from doing long period spirited driving and was wondering if I should get M-performance brakes or should I just upgrade rotors and pads?

I recommend starting with a race pad. It will be noisier on the street, but you may be able to manage the noise so it's not so loud.

If that's not enough, add a racing brake fluid like Motul into the mix. If you use a race fluid like one of the Motuls, you'll probably need to change it more frequently than you would the OEM fluid.

If that's still not enough, the M Performance BBK would likely do the trick. If you're considering this option, you may want to act sooner rather than later. Apparently, it's a possibility that the kit will be discontinued; more here: https://www.bimmerworld.com/BMW-M-Pe...t-F22-F3X.html.

[230iZTR]

I'm very happy with the OEM S2NHA 340mm/4-piston Brembo package. If you're just doing spirited backroads, Dradernh has the right idea...pads, fluid, and lines will go a very long way for not a lot of money. Even the JDC-Miller 228i Pirelli Challenge "Street Tuner" class cars were running P337's to avoid power/weight penalties for upgrading the brakes above the base trim level specifications. That said, I doubt you'd be subject to any similar restrictions on a streetcar, so if the cost makes sense, go for it. The S2NHA's are proven.

[Rollo`]

I just installed the front half of the M Performance brakes on my 230i yesterday. Not going to test it until I get the rears installed and the car updated but I like the way it looks.

[NEYUGN]

I think I am going to go with new pads and brake lines but the M performance kit is very tempting just cause of the way it looks. Thanks everyone.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by NEYUGN

...the M performance kit is very tempting just cause of the way it looks.

In case you didn't know, it comes in a choice of colors, too.

[PeanuKeeyes]

Originally Posted by dradernh

In case you didn't know, it comes in a choice of colors, too.

Wait, why no blue option? These the same as the big blue brakes that come standard on the performance package cars? I like these other color options.

[pikcachu]

Originally Posted by PeanuKeeyes

Wait, why no blue option? These the same as the big blue brakes that come standard on the performance package cars? I like these other color options.

no, the blue brakes come with 340x30 rotors M perf kit comes with 370x30

[WolfGTI]

Correct - although I wish the M perf kit had a blue option - I prefer to be less noticeable.

Originally Posted by pikcachu

no, the blue brakes come with 340x30 rotors M perf kit comes with 370x30

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by PeanuKeeyes

These the same as the big blue brakes that come standard on the performance package cars?

Originally Posted by pikcachu

no, the blue brakes come with 340x30 rotors M perf kit comes with 370x30

The M Perf rear calipers are different, too, in that they contain 44mm pistons instead of the blue M Sport calipers' 40mm pistons.

[Rollo`]

got rear rotors on and software updated but didn't have time to play around this afternoon. I bought the plain rotors that are on the blue brakes instead of the dimpled and slotted for the rear but I still think it looks nice. I'll post a brief review later this weekend.

[NEYUGN]

so I placed an order for new pads/rotors. I decided to with StopTech pads, unfortunately the rear pads are on back order and the sales rep said I can use the 308.16130 instead of the 309.16130 since I am doing street driving only. Is it okay to have 309 in front and 308 on the rear?

[230iZTR]

Originally Posted by NEYUGN

Is it okay to have 309 in front and 308 on the rear?

I don't have the technical data to back it up (though StopTech would) but I suspect the only difference between the pads is the material, which would have different friction vs temperature curves. So as long as you aren't working the brakes very hard (e.g. on track) and getting them hot enough for the rears to get outside their optimal operating range, you shouldn't feel a difference and it'll be fine.

If you do manage to get the rears outside their optimal temp range, I'd expect braking distances to increase...but that's expected and would happen with the stock pads too. These seem to be better than the stock pads anyway, so you're ahead regardless.

[Dvtchmxn]

Originally Posted by Rollo`

I just installed the front half of the M Performance brakes on my 230i yesterday. Not going to test it until I get the rears installed and the car updated but I like the way it looks.

question. Is there a caliper mounting bracket for the new calipers or do they just slide onto the rotor?

[CarbonLion]

Originally Posted by Dvtchmxn

question. Is there a caliper mounting bracket for the new calipers or do they just slide onto the rotor?

For the M Perf. Brakes no bracket is needed, it uses the same mounting points on the hub carrier.

[Dvtchmxn]

Originally Posted by CarbonLion

For the M Perf. Brakes no bracket is needed, it uses the same mounting points on the hub carrier.

I was looking over the install instructions and it says that coding is required. is it needed? and also what rear rotors should I buy? cause I don't want to end up buying rotors that are too big/small lol.

Reference: https://rparts-sites.s3.amazonaws.co...Perf%20BBK.pdf
Kit: https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...kgUGFnZQ%3D%3D

Rotors I'm taking a look at: https://www.bmwpartsdirect.com/oem-p...IFJlc3VsdHM%3D

Thanks

[CarbonLion]

Originally Posted by Dvtchmxn

I was looking over the install instructions and it says that coding is required. is it needed? and also what rear rotors should I buy? cause I don't want to end up buying rotors that are too big/small lol.

Reference: https://rparts-sites.s3.amazonaws.co...Perf%20BBK.pdf
Kit: https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...kgUGFnZQ%3D%3D

Rotors I'm taking a look at: https://www.bmwpartsdirect.com/oem-p...IFJlc3VsdHM%3D

Thanks

There are some threads that explain the need for coding; the brakes will function without it, but DSC/ABS may be compromised (the instructions included with the kit specify coding is needed). I installed the M. Perf Brake Kit on my 2015 228i RWD but had the coding performed by a dealer a few days later to ensure these systems function as intended.

The rear discs you linked are for some F3X series cars that come with a larger rear hub/parking brake (185mm) assembly. I had to install https://www.bmwpartsdirect.com/oem-p...sc-34206797598. I believe all F2X cars have the same rear hub/parking brake size (160mm) and need to use the rear rotors with the smaller hub.

[mhrir]

Originally Posted by CarbonLion

There are some threads that explain the need for coding; the brakes will function without it, but DSC/ABS may be compromised (the instructions included with the kit specify coding is needed). I installed the M. Perf Brake Kit on my 2015 228i RWD but had the coding performed by a dealer a few days later to ensure these systems function as intended.

The rear discs you linked are for some F3X series cars that come with a larger rear hub/parking brake (185mm) assembly. I had to install https://www.bmwpartsdirect.com/oem-p...sc-34206797598. I believe all F2X cars have the same rear hub/parking brake size (160mm) and need to use the rear rotors with the smaller hub.

Did you start with the Track Handling Package sport brakes? Or from the base 228/230 brakes? Were there any other parts needed for the rear rotor swap to the M Performance brakes?

[CarbonLion]

Originally Posted by mhrir

Did you start with the Track Handling Package sport brakes? Or from the base 228/230 brakes? Were there any other parts needed for the rear rotor swap to the M Performance brakes?

I started with the base 1 pistons. From the research I did prior to install the only differences the THP brakes would have made are the rear rotors and rear dust shields are compatible with M Perf Brakes.

Sources: realoem.com "brakes" section for my VIN.
This thread of a member upgrading to M Sport brakes from base.

[Rollo`]

I am so happy I got the M Performance brakes. They look great and perform flawlessly in spirited driving. You have to get them coded after installation because brake force distribution changes with the significantly larger front rotors and larger pistons.

The rear splash shield is NOT compatible with the m performance brakes. I let my dealership install the rears for that reason. Removing the old and installing the new splash shield looked like a pain.

Purchase the rotors direct from Brembo for much less than BMW charges. You can get the dimpled slotted or the plain rotors like I did. They come with the aluminum hats which are a must in my opinion. If you search my posts you can find information on the part number and the web site to order rotors from.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by Rollo`

If you search my posts you can find information on the part number and the web site to order rotors from.

I think this thread has yur post: https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1762286, and this is the site: https://www.brembostoreusa.com/.