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      12-31-2023, 01:43 PM   #4973
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BMW leaves out the fender M badge for the M Package in the US, but keeps it on for the rest of the world.... does that mean if I add it back on the fender, it's "fake"???

what about the "M" door sill covers that came with the car? (although I'm the only one who see it when the door is opened, obviously)
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BMW leaves out the fender M badge for the M Package in the US, but keeps it on for the rest of the world.... does that mean if I add it back on the fender, it's "fake"???

what about the "M" door sill covers that came with the car? (although I'm the only one who see it when the door is opened, obviously)
I find the m badge on the front quarter panel a bit strange. They left them off of US cars for a good reason. My wife has a m240ix and I’m glad it doesn’t have the quarter panel logos. It’s already bad enough it has a rear m badge from the factory. At least her other car, e92 M3, is a real M car with a real M logo and she knows the difference between a real M and a badged M car.
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      12-31-2023, 02:34 PM   #4975
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BMW have been putting m badges on some of their models since at least the days of the M-Tech e30’s, my old e36 328i Sport came with m door badge mouldings from the factory, same as my G31 m sport has the little m front wing (fender) badges fitted from factory…& I quite like them
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BMW have been putting m badges on some of their models since at least the days of the M-Tech e30’s, my old e36 328i Sport came with m door badge mouldings from the factory, same as my G31 m sport has the little m front wing (fender) badges fitted from factory…& I quite like them
The whole point of this thread.
If the badge came from factory, it can’t be fake. If someone goes out of their way to pay money to acquire a badge their car didn’t have, and puts said badge on their car, they are posted here.
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The whole point of this thread.
If the badge came from factory, it can’t be fake. If someone goes out of their way to pay money to acquire a badge their car didn’t have, and puts said badge on their car, they are posted here.

when my aunt's husband bought a new Mercedes S600(W140), the first thing he did was to have the saleswoman remove the V12 and the S600 badges.

He then ordered the S320 badges and had it put on the trunk lid.

I remember asking him "why do you want to put on fake badges on you new car?"(of course, I was young and dumb back then and didn't realize why he did it)
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when my aunt's husband bought a new Mercedes S600(W140), the first thing he did was to have the saleswoman remove the V12 and the S600 badges.

He then ordered the S320 badges and had it put on the trunk lid.

I remember asking him "why do you want to put on fake badges on you new car?"(of course, I was young and dumb back then and didn't realize why he did it)
I personally am fond of debadging and approve of downbadging. But of course people have various opinions and tastes
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The whole point of this thread.
If the badge came from factory, it can’t be fake. If someone goes out of their way to pay money to acquire a badge their car didn’t have, and puts said badge on their car, they are posted here.
Yeah I know that & agree, was kinda the point of the post but a few posters here don’t seem to get that & post up BMWs with factory m badging as fake
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Yeah I know that & agree, was kinda the point of the post but a few posters here don’t seem to get that & post up BMWs with factory m badging as fake
I'm a little confused now.

if the car with M Sport package comes with "M" fender badge in every country on the planet except the US, does putting on the identical "M" fender badge on the same US BMW with M Sport package count as fake?

are are all M badges considered "fake" when they are not on true M cars like M3 and M5?
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I'm a little confused now.

if the car with M Sport package comes with "M" fender badge in every country on the planet except the US, does putting on the identical "M" fender badge on the same US BMW with M Sport package count as fake?

are are all M badges considered "fake" when they are not on true M cars like M3 and M5?
It wouldn’t offend me if someone retro fitted m fender badges to their US spec m sport Gx, technically I suppose they may be considered ‘fake’ though.

BMW m sport or m tech in old money come/came with m steering wheel, m gear knob, m door cills, m sport/tech body kit, front door trim or wing m badging, sports seats & sports suspension, they didn’t come factory fitted with M boot or M front grill badging…so I wouldn’t consider any m sport or m tech bmw to be ‘fake’

As for those that slap M3/4/5 badging on their 3/4/5 20d’s or 3/4/5 40is that’s fake M badging…and don’t even get me started on those ‘M’ tricolour grill stripes
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It wouldn’t offend me if someone retro fitted m fender badges to their US spec m sport Gx, technically I suppose they may be considered ‘fake’ though.

BMW m sport or m tech in old money come/came with m steering wheel, m gear knob, m door cills, m sport/tech body kit, front door trim or wing m badging, sports seats & sports suspension, they didn’t come factory fitted with M boot or M front grill badging…so I wouldn’t consider any m sport or m tech bmw to be ‘fake’

As for those that slap M3/4/5 badging on their 3/4/5 20d’s or 3/4/5 40is that’s fake M badging…and don’t even get me started on those ‘M’ tricolour grill stripes
Thanks!

I think U.S. BMW buyers really get screwed over a lot... in most parts of the world, BMW gives the buyer the free option to delete badges during production.
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Debadging is the same thing as fake badges. One is adding to appear better and one is removing to appear worse.
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Debadging is the same thing a fake badges. One is adding to appear better and one is removing to appear worse.

Maybe some of us just prefer the uncluttered look of a debadged boot lid/tailgate
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Maybe some of us just prefer the uncluttered look of a debadged boot lid/tailgate
Maybe some people love the look of an M badge on the boot lid/tailgate.
-not me, but the logic is the same-
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Maybe some people love the look of an M badge on the boot lid/tailgate.
-not me, but the logic is the same-
then there's this... it was re-badged, de-badged and then finally re-badged back to a BMW... or something like that...
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Maybe some people love the look of an M badge on the boot lid/tailgate.
-not me, but the logic is the same-
Doesn’t your e93 M3 have an M boot badge
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Doesn’t your e93 M3 have an M boot badge
Yep, I ment to say adding a M badge to the boot.
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Yep, I ment to say adding a M badge to the boot.
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then there's this... it was re-badged, de-badged and then finally re-badged back to a BMW... or something like that...
I can’t believe someone put a BMW logo on their Supra. Amazing. So the Supra is based on a Z4 but the development and fine tuning were done by Toyota. They should’ve used the BMW 50th Anniversary logo to make it an even more special anniversary edition.
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I can’t believe someone put a BMW logo on their Supra. Amazing. So the Supra is based on a Z4 but the development and fine tuning were done by Toyota. They should’ve used the BMW 50th Anniversary logo to make it an even more special anniversary edition.
I sat in one at a Toyota dealer while waiting for them to do an oil change on my Lexus. The Supra's interior felt like 95% BMW to me.
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I sat in one at a Toyota dealer while waiting for them to do an oil change on my Lexus. The Supra's interior felt like 95% BMW to me.
It does look and feel like a BMW. Idrive was probably a shock to new non-BMW owners whereas we’ve been playing around with Idrive for at least 15 years now.
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It does look and feel like a BMW. Idrive was probably a shock to new non-BMW owners whereas we’ve been playing around with Idrive for at least 15 years now.
iDrive was introduced with the E65 7 Series in 2001 (followed by the E60 5 Series in 2004), so 22 years.
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iDrive was introduced with the E65 7 Series in 2001 (followed by the E60 5 Series in 2004), so 22 years.
My first time using Idrive was when I got an e60 5 series loaner when my ‘09 M3 was in for service. I should have qualified my statement by saying my first experience with Idrive was ~15 years ago
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