10-28-2013, 02:22 PM | #45 |
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For the love of all that is holy, stop trying to fill a market gap and make something truly astonishing.
How about spending those financial resources to create a sub-4000 lb M5? |
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I'm very happy to hear about the X7 - Mercedes sells upwards of 20,000 GLs in the U.S. every year (that's 70% of the total BMW 5-Series volume - a huge amount) at an average transaction price of over $80k. BMW has lost a LOT of money by not having a competitor. I'm not going to comment on the RR model, but I'll say that 2017 for the X7 is, again, too late. With regard to BMW historically being slow, they are as of the past 15 years at least, with the exception being the X5. Think about the 60s - 70s when the "New Class" came out. Those cars pushed boundaries and appealed to people universally, and while BMW is drawing comparison to the new 2-series, it is far too technical, too complex, and too expensive (when adjusting for inflation) to really be a 2002 heir. And the thought of a simple, light, practical, and affordable entry to the BMW family is not merely an enthusiast's wet dream - it has the potential for massive sales and wide market appeal. Not something stripped and hardcore - just a simple, RWD, three-box coupe, sedan, and convertible line starting in the mid-to-high $20k to steal sales from almost all the mainstream manufacturers not to mention Mercedes and Audi.
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10-28-2013, 02:40 PM | #48 |
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The cars that people think resemble others cars to me is just amazing. Really? You think that RR looks like a Dodge Magnum? I agree both have four doors, and four wheels with a (somewhat) similar shape, but at some point, you can't really re-invent the wheel when it comes to car sizes / shapes.
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10-28-2013, 02:53 PM | #51 |
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Build it! It should be nearly identical (in most cases) to the size of my e46 ZHP. I'm driving a 10 year old BMW, in part, because I don't need "class leading" rear leg room. 3er (and 4er) are too big!
If you build it, it will sell! Maybe make only a M235i version to keep it from cannabalising 3er sells? No need for xi or lower end 228i models IMO. I don't understand how the 5GT and 3GT make business sense, but this car is questionable? LMAO
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10-28-2013, 03:23 PM | #53 |
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Why is everyone worried about BMW loosing sales to CLA and A3 sedan due to the lack of a 4 door coupe /sedan where you could also see the other side of the medal: Merc and Audi will loose sales as they don't offer a coupe (also no one wants shitty FWD). Everbody looking for a small sports coupe will have to go 2 series. I see it rather as an USP than as a disadvantage, cause typically coupe = more sporty.
Besides that a 2GC would rock |
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10-28-2013, 03:29 PM | #54 |
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$$$$$$$$
BMW just gone insane, kill M3 and make it M4 and now introduce GC!!!! I do see a C63 AMG 507 in my future now.
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..As if a 3-Series has TONS of rear passenger room. And infants and toddlers don't stay infants and toddlers for long, so they will outgrow that small car. |
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I honestly think BMW has gone ludicrous with how many offerings there are now. I wouldn't be surprised if in 4-5 years BMW shaves a couple models off their lists. Have 1 or 2 niche cars but stop trying to make everyone happy, it just doesn't work. |
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I will agree with you on one point.. The 5 series GT indeed blew chunks. ..... |
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Dude...the "I'd bet" was purely speculative. I don't sit around and research ALL aspects of the market because, frankly, I don't care that much about how many units were sold. My comment about the market was referring to products that other manufacturers are producing. Relax!!!! The X1 and X6 make sense to me (...especially considering the increase in size for the X3 and X5). Even the 6GC makes a tad bit of sense because of the CLS. These smaller "GC's" don't. ...and I'm sure that the volume 3-Series is what really keeps BMW afloat. |
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As much as I want a 2GC, I'm with BMW. I'm already considering either the M235i or 335i M-sport depending on dealer incentives when the time comes. If they have 2GC, without a doubt I will get the 2GC. Would 2GC effect the sales of the 3 series? Hell yes.
The 3 is BMW's hallmark car. BMW should think twice before hurting the sales of their best product.
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This model fragmentation is becoming absolutely ridiculous.
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Jackpot! Looks absolutely perfect and is a great CLA rival.
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very nice render. wow looks better than the coupe |
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