THE LARGEST BMW 2-SERIES FORUM ON THE PLANET
2Addicts
2Addicts
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
2Addicts | BMW 2-Series forum Technical Topics Navigation, iDrive, Audio, Video, Bluetooth, Phone, Cameras, Electronics The "Official" F22 OBD2 wireless adapter / Android+Torque / iPhone+DashCommand thread

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-12-2015, 05:50 AM   #111
Dog Face Pony Soldier
2006 TIME Person Of The Year
Dog Face Pony Soldier's Avatar
United_States
9720
Rep
6,445
Posts

Drives: M Sport 335i
Join Date: May 2013
Location: North Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2014 335i  [9.74]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ///Mobbin
Has anyone confirmed that coolant and oil temp display in Harry's LapTimer?

I'm sure it will work but curious if someone has tried it already.
I'm currently shaking down my new expanded Harry's Lap Timer setup, so I am still working things out... But it looks like coolant temp is part of the overlay.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Appreciate 0
      05-12-2015, 08:51 AM   #112
Uridian
Second Lieutenant
Uridian's Avatar
42
Rep
269
Posts

Drives: E36 M3, 228i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

I get oil temp with ELM327, Torque Pro and Nexus 5.
Appreciate 1
      05-13-2015, 07:23 PM   #113
Blackcross
New Member
Blackcross's Avatar
Canada
17
Rep
28
Posts

Drives: Estoril Blue 2014 335i xdrive
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ottawa

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uridian View Post
I get oil temp with ELM327, Torque Pro and Nexus 5.
hey Uridian, what build date is your car?
__________________
2014 Estoril 335i xdrive 6sp: M Sport, m perf power/brakes/sound kit, AA8 400 hp/ 420 ft-lbs. 10/15mm spacers. Dinan 3/4" spring kit, Misc coding. Mud flaps.
Racing/tuning/teaching since 1997. Long list of clubs as Chief, classroom and in-car instructor.
Appreciate 0
      05-15-2015, 03:16 PM   #114
Chr2004
Enlisted Member
3
Rep
29
Posts

Drives: 2014 M235i BSM/CR
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Wilmington NC

iTrader: (0)

Anyone have any clue how create a user defined PID? OBD fusion tech support says that they do not support oil temp on the 14' M235i, but one can create a user defined PID to extract this information from the ECU.
Appreciate 0
      05-15-2015, 03:48 PM   #115
///Mobbin
Colonel
///Mobbin's Avatar
1478
Rep
2,672
Posts

Drives: m3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Houston

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chr2004 View Post
Anyone have any clue how create a user defined PID? OBD fusion tech support says that they do not support oil temp on the 14' M235i, but one can create a user defined PID to extract this information from the ECU.
There is a standard oil temp PID, and it doesn't work for many many vehicle models, but it sounds like it does work for the M235i if folks are getting it to work with Torque on Android. I'm also curious if anyone has seen it also working on the 'Timer Display' in Harry's.
__________________
2021 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio | 2.9L | Trofeo White Tri-Coat | 8-spd
Appreciate 0
      05-15-2015, 03:53 PM   #116
///Mobbin
Colonel
///Mobbin's Avatar
1478
Rep
2,672
Posts

Drives: m3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Houston

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post
I'm currently shaking down my new expanded Harry's Lap Timer setup, so I am still working things out... But it looks like coolant temp is part of the overlay.
Thanks, I am actually more specifically curious if the oil-temp displays on the "Timer View" in Harry's while it's running. This is useful in monitoring temps while at the track.

Harry's will alert you if you reach a "warning" level and then an "error" level.

Harry has set the temps to predefined values as follows:
Oil Warning - 238 degrees Fahrenheit (Orange)
Oil Error - 302 degrees Fahrenheit (Red)
Coolant Warning - 221 degrees Fahrenheit (Orange)
Coolant Error - 239 degrees Fahrenheit (Red)

Harry mentioned that he consulted some knowledgeable folks when setting these values and they seem to be on-par with my research. If I see orange on the display I might do a cool down lap, if I see red, I better pit at the next opportunity.
__________________
2021 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio | 2.9L | Trofeo White Tri-Coat | 8-spd
Appreciate 0
      05-15-2015, 03:59 PM   #117
///Mobbin
Colonel
///Mobbin's Avatar
1478
Rep
2,672
Posts

Drives: m3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Houston

iTrader: (3)

Here's an example from another vehicle where coolant temp is displayed but oil temp is not functioning:


Here's another example with both working and an oil temperature warning indicated:


(Apologies for large pics)
__________________
2021 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio | 2.9L | Trofeo White Tri-Coat | 8-spd
Appreciate 0
      05-15-2015, 04:04 PM   #118
Dog Face Pony Soldier
2006 TIME Person Of The Year
Dog Face Pony Soldier's Avatar
United_States
9720
Rep
6,445
Posts

Drives: M Sport 335i
Join Date: May 2013
Location: North Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2014 335i  [9.74]
Quote:
Originally Posted by ///Mobbin
Quote:
Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post
I'm currently shaking down my new expanded Harry's Lap Timer setup, so I am still working things out... But it looks like coolant temp is part of the overlay.
Thanks, I am actually more specifically curious if the oil-temp displays on the "Timer View" in Harry's while it's running. This is useful in monitoring temps while at the track.

Harry's will alert you if you reach a "warning" level and then an "error" level.

Harry has set the temps to predefined values as follows:
Oil Warning - 238 degrees Fahrenheit (Orange)
Oil Error - 302 degrees Fahrenheit (Red)
Coolant Warning - 221 degrees Fahrenheit (Orange)
Coolant Error - 239 degrees Fahrenheit (Red)

Harry mentioned that he consulted some knowledgeable folks when setting these values and they seem to be on-par with my research. If I see orange on the display I might do a cool down lap, if I see red, I better pit at the next opportunity.
Interesting.
I do not get any oil temp information in either HLT or OBD Link. It would be helpful to be able to modify the settings for warnings. My car's normal coolant temp is in HLT's warning range.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Appreciate 1
      05-15-2015, 04:10 PM   #119
Uridian
Second Lieutenant
Uridian's Avatar
42
Rep
269
Posts

Drives: E36 M3, 228i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackcross View Post
hey Uridian, what build date is your car?
March 2, 2014
Appreciate 0
      05-16-2015, 01:37 PM   #120
Zooks527
Captain
310
Rep
886
Posts

Drives: 2015 M235xi / 2005 Tacoma 4x4
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mansfield, MA

iTrader: (0)

And Torque is showing oil temp on my 4/7/15 build M235xi.
__________________
2015 M235xi coupe, Black Sapphire Metallic, Black Leather, Fineline Stream trim, Steptronic, xDrive, ZPP, ZTP, ZCW, ZDA, ZDB, 5DP, hk w/BimmerTech amp, Enhanced BT

Prior 40 years: 67 BelAir wagon / 68 LeMans Tempest / 70 Mustang Mach 1 / 72 El Dorado / 78 Corvette / 81 Subaru GL wagon 4WD / 83 s10 Blazer 4x4 / 85 Bronco 4x4 / 96 Bronco 4x4 / 04 Passat 4mo / 09 BMW 335xi
Appreciate 0
      05-18-2015, 10:10 AM   #121
///Mobbin
Colonel
///Mobbin's Avatar
1478
Rep
2,672
Posts

Drives: m3
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Houston

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post
Interesting.
I do not get any oil temp information in either HLT or OBD Link. It would be helpful to be able to modify the settings for warnings. My car's normal coolant temp is in HLT's warning range.
Thanks for posting, interesting that some folks have access to oil temp and some do not ... I wonder why?

Also, it would be really nice if Harry would allow those temps to be user configurable, I've suggested this to him in the past, please create an account and ask Harry for this feature to show there is a need out there:
Harry's Laptimer Forum - re Warning Temperatures
__________________
2021 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio | 2.9L | Trofeo White Tri-Coat | 8-spd
Appreciate 1
      05-19-2015, 07:08 PM   #122
scottomfg
Lieutenant
scottomfg's Avatar
287
Rep
439
Posts

Drives: '14 Cayman S 6MT, '21 X5 45E
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Oregon

iTrader: (0)

Thumbs up

Hey Folks, exciting news today for iOS users. Automatic has come out with a new generation of it's OBD adapter, which has tons of new features, not the least of which is it allows a second app (besides their own Automatic app) to access the dongle via Bluetooth. This instantly makes this the best iOS compatible bluetooth OBD reader, and unlike a lot of the cheap Chinese grey label ones we've had to use previously, this one should be top notch quality and come with real product support through Automatic, and all that that entails. Very exciting. They've already announced compatibility with DashCommand, Harry's LapTimer, and OBD Fusion, which is all I need, that's for sure. Yes, it's a little more pricey at $99, but if it works like it should, it'll be well worth it.

Here is a link to the release info: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/05/19/...w-car-adapter/

And it's also available from Amazon (if you are a Primer member like me, you always prefer to order everything from Amazon): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...3DT4IOE573ACGP

I will be ordering one shortly, and will share my experiences here. I expect many aspects to be improved over my current Elm Wifi OBD set-up, most importantly, it should auto-connect seamlessly (since it's bluetooth now, vs wifi), and I'm hoping that it doesn't draw power when the car is off. Fingers crossed.
__________________

2014 981 Cayman S 6MT, X73 Suspension, SES
2021 X5 45e MSport, Manhattan Green, Coffee Merino, Review & Photos
Previous: '18 340 GT, '15 M235i 6MT, '15 i3 REx, '15 x1 xDrive28i
Appreciate 1
      05-19-2015, 07:16 PM   #123
Zooks527
Captain
310
Rep
886
Posts

Drives: 2015 M235xi / 2005 Tacoma 4x4
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mansfield, MA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ///Mobbin View Post
Thanks for posting, interesting that some folks have access to oil temp and some do not ... I wonder why?
[/URL]
Likely a change in the ECU going from BMW specific PIDs to industry standard. If I had to bet, I'd bet there's a hard cut date when the ability to read it came on.
__________________
2015 M235xi coupe, Black Sapphire Metallic, Black Leather, Fineline Stream trim, Steptronic, xDrive, ZPP, ZTP, ZCW, ZDA, ZDB, 5DP, hk w/BimmerTech amp, Enhanced BT

Prior 40 years: 67 BelAir wagon / 68 LeMans Tempest / 70 Mustang Mach 1 / 72 El Dorado / 78 Corvette / 81 Subaru GL wagon 4WD / 83 s10 Blazer 4x4 / 85 Bronco 4x4 / 96 Bronco 4x4 / 04 Passat 4mo / 09 BMW 335xi
Appreciate 0
      05-19-2015, 08:01 PM   #124
Dog Face Pony Soldier
2006 TIME Person Of The Year
Dog Face Pony Soldier's Avatar
United_States
9720
Rep
6,445
Posts

Drives: M Sport 335i
Join Date: May 2013
Location: North Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2014 335i  [9.74]
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottomfg
Hey Folks, exciting news today for iOS users. Automatic has come out with a new generation of it's OBD adapter, which has tons of new features, not the least of which is it allows a second app (besides their own Automatic app) to access the dongle via Bluetooth. This instantly makes this the best iOS compatible bluetooth OBD reader, and unlike a lot of the cheap Chinese grey label ones we've had to use previously, this one should be top notch quality and come with real product support through Automatic, and all that that entails. Very exciting. They've already announced compatibility with DashCommand, Harry's LapTimer, and OBD Fusion, which is all I need, that's for sure. Yes, it's a little more pricey at $99, but if it works like it should, it'll be well worth it.

Here is a link to the release info: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/05/19/...w-car-adapter/" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.macrumors...r-adapter/</a>

And it's also available from Amazon (if you are a Primer member like me, you always prefer to order everything from Amazon): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...3DT4IOE573ACGP" rel="" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.amazon.co...IOE573ACGP</a>

I will be ordering one shortly, and will share my experiences here. I expect many aspects to be improved over my current Elm Wifi OBD set-up, most importantly, it should auto-connect seamlessly (since it's bluetooth now, vs wifi), and I'm hoping that it doesn't draw power when the car is off. Fingers crossed.
I don't see much value in the Automatic app integration, so until I see Harry post some measurements, I'll stick with the fastest OBD interface, the MX WiFi.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      05-19-2015, 08:03 PM   #125
scottomfg
Lieutenant
scottomfg's Avatar
287
Rep
439
Posts

Drives: '14 Cayman S 6MT, '21 X5 45E
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Oregon

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post
I don't see much value in the Automatic app integration, so until I see Harry post some measurements, I'll stick with my MX WiFi.
Yeah, me either, that's why I literally didn't even mention it. FYI, Harry has already updated his apps to specifically support the new dongle.
__________________

2014 981 Cayman S 6MT, X73 Suspension, SES
2021 X5 45e MSport, Manhattan Green, Coffee Merino, Review & Photos
Previous: '18 340 GT, '15 M235i 6MT, '15 i3 REx, '15 x1 xDrive28i
Appreciate 0
      05-19-2015, 08:06 PM   #126
Dog Face Pony Soldier
2006 TIME Person Of The Year
Dog Face Pony Soldier's Avatar
United_States
9720
Rep
6,445
Posts

Drives: M Sport 335i
Join Date: May 2013
Location: North Jersey

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2014 335i  [9.74]
With the MX WiFi, my iPhone automatically joins the OBD interface's wireless network, just like my iPhone automatically joins any other known wireless network. Not sure why Bluetooth is any better in this regard. :
__________________
Appreciate 0
      05-19-2015, 10:47 PM   #127
Blackcross
New Member
Blackcross's Avatar
Canada
17
Rep
28
Posts

Drives: Estoril Blue 2014 335i xdrive
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Ottawa

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uridian View Post
March 2, 2014
Thx.

I'll be seeing my buddy on Friday. he's a mechanic so we'll see if we can get a reading from the ECU and determine if there is a custom PID.
__________________
2014 Estoril 335i xdrive 6sp: M Sport, m perf power/brakes/sound kit, AA8 400 hp/ 420 ft-lbs. 10/15mm spacers. Dinan 3/4" spring kit, Misc coding. Mud flaps.
Racing/tuning/teaching since 1997. Long list of clubs as Chief, classroom and in-car instructor.

Last edited by Blackcross; 05-19-2015 at 10:48 PM.. Reason: added custom PID info
Appreciate 1
      05-20-2015, 02:23 AM   #128
scottomfg
Lieutenant
scottomfg's Avatar
287
Rep
439
Posts

Drives: '14 Cayman S 6MT, '21 X5 45E
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Oregon

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by glennQNYC View Post
With the MX WiFi, my iPhone automatically joins the OBD interface's wireless network, just like my iPhone automatically joins any other known wireless network. Not sure why Bluetooth is any better in this regard. :
Well, if it works for you, that's great, more power to you. As the reviews on Amazon show though, people tend to have pretty significant connection issues with that set up. This is because it's basically a hack, wifi wasn't made for that purpose, and it's a very kludgy set-up to have an interfaceless dongle create it's own network to be connected to (though a testament to ingenuity and making something work in Apple's walled garden). And, many people have problems with their phone's data connection once it connects to the internet-less wifi network created by the dongle. But, I digress . . .

Low-power Bluetooth is expressly made for this kind of data connection, so it should have less problems and certainly less obstacles. Lower-power consumption, no interference with internet connections, and a nice pure data connection (and not a network protocol connection) is probably going to be a clear winner. That's why I'm excited we finally get a solid solution supported by both Apple and the 3rd parties we were already using--at last!
__________________

2014 981 Cayman S 6MT, X73 Suspension, SES
2021 X5 45e MSport, Manhattan Green, Coffee Merino, Review & Photos
Previous: '18 340 GT, '15 M235i 6MT, '15 i3 REx, '15 x1 xDrive28i
Appreciate 0
      06-15-2015, 08:45 PM   #129
stroids88
Second Lieutenant
stroids88's Avatar
United_States
147
Rep
213
Posts

Drives: 2015 Frozen Black ///M3
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Carlsbad, CA

iTrader: (0)

OBDLink MX Bluetooth Scan Tool

Just ordered (6/15/15) OBDLink MX Bluetooth Scan Tool. Decided to use the Android tablet I have instead of using my iPhone. I'll post some details after I get it and set it up.
Monoblock, fantastic post, this site rocks and great thread. Thanks Monoblock and all who took time to give their input!
Appreciate 0
      07-17-2015, 09:19 PM   #130
Nutballa
Captain
Nutballa's Avatar
United_States
251
Rep
840
Posts

Drives: BMW F13 M6 // BMW F22 M235i
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Austin, Texas+ San Antonio

iTrader: (1)

I got iOS so I can't use Torque app.
__________________
BMW FTW!

"Power is nothing without Control" - Pirelli.


Appreciate 0
      07-25-2015, 12:25 PM   #131
wjones14
Captain
wjones14's Avatar
675
Rep
899
Posts

Drives: 2021 M2C
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Niantic CT

iTrader: (0)

I bought this mini OBD2 Wi-Fi adapter (IKKEGOL 10308BOR Vgate iCar 2 Mini OBD2 Wi-Fi) from amazon to use with an iPod Touch 5th generation:

http://www.amazon.com/IKKEGOL-10308B...HSFE60Y1YZ4HXW

I paired this adapter with the Dash Command iOS app ($10) and have been using it for a week or so. Pros and Cons of the OBD2 adapter and the Dash Command app:

Pros:
  1. Dash Command connects to the adapter's wi-fi signal every time
  2. There are a wealth of M235i PIDs recognized by Dash Command - too many to list
  3. The OBD2 adapter is tiny and totally non-intrusive
  4. No lost connections so far
  5. The iCar OBD2 adapter automatically goes to sleep 30 minutes after ignition is shut off
  6. The iCar OBD2 adapter has an on/off power switch

Cons:
  1. The iCar OBD2 adapter instructions are hideously translated
  2. Dash Command is not intuitive at first, and user manual is sketchy

The main reason I bought the adapter and app were because of the lack of coolant and oil temp gauges in the car. Mission accomplished as you can see in the iPod Touch screenshot.

I am still learning how to use Dash Command, as you can also see in the screenshot. The coolant temp gauge was already part of the default gauge screen. I think there were 6 gauges on the screen, but not the oil temp, so I removed all the others except the coolant temp gauge, resized it, and then added the oil temp gauge. I will make both gauges the same size, and possibly add the color markings on the dial for green and red, once I figure out how to do it... The good news is that there is a dedicated forum where the developers answer questions directly.

I definitely am pleased with this purchase. All that's left is to decide what type of mount I want to use - for now I just stand the iPod up in the cup holder and it's actually fine there.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Vehicles: 2021 Alpine White M2C 6MT; 2011 Kawasaki Z1000 (1/4 mile 10.3 seconds @ 129 mph - stock)
Previous: 2018 Camaro 2SS 1LE 6MT; 2015 BMW M235i 6MT; 2015 Mini Cooper F56 6MT; 2005 Mustang GT 5MT; 2003 Mini Cooper R50 5MT
Appreciate 0
      07-30-2015, 01:43 AM   #132
youbaoeke2
Registered
Austria
0
Rep
1
Posts

Drives: Audi Q5
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Houston

iTrader: (0)

Awesome info! Thank you very much.BMW ICOM
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:50 PM.




2addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST