[Cpdbeemer]

Originally Posted by den525

I don't quite understand this... what do you mean removal/reversal of the factory detune?

If you look at the engine bay of the M2 vs M3/M4, it looks completely different... apart from pistons, forged crankshaft, crankshaft barrings and spark plugs, overall it's a hugely different engine with completely different engine block and different turbo system.

I have been told by a dealer principal fresh back from Germany that they detuned the M2 so as to keep it below performance levels of its larger brethren. But it could be easily tweaked were his words.

I never said they were similar / the same engine.

[den525]

Originally Posted by Cpdbeemer

I have been told by a dealer principal fresh back from Germany that they detuned the M2 so as to keep it below performance levels of its larger brethren. But it could be easily tweaked were his words.

I never said they were similar / the same engine.

Was just a little confused that's all. A few people have suggested it's a detuned s55, hence why I thought that's what you meant

[WAY]

No doubt the "special" N55 in the M2 is not tuned to its maximum potential. I mean, even the standard N55 can be reliably operated in a higher state of tune. And S55 has plenty of potential left as well for future iterations. So really, M3 is also "detuned".

[PeteA]

Maximum potential is a largely loose term. What does this mean? There are so many variables:

Maximum for how long?
What temperature ambient conditions?
What fuel?
Under what engine utilization characteristics?

I have a M2 ordered, standard with 6MT. Still thinking if I'd like a DCT as its a NCO.

[8y8]

Originally Posted by PeteA

I have a M2 ordered, standard with 6MT. Still thinking if I'd like a DCT as its a NCO.

Congrats! Get the manual! It will be a unique car in that segment ... all others are not available in a manual. Although I would go for the Pure version if you're going for the manual. Personally, I don't think the extra features in themselves, particularly without the DCT, are worth the extra $10K approx. but each to their own of course

[PeteA]

Originally Posted by 8y8

Congrats! Get the manual! It will be a unique car in that segment ... all others are not available in a manual. Although I would go for the Pure version if you're going for the manual. Personally, I don't think the extra features in themselves, particularly without the DCT, are worth the extra $10K approx. but each to their own of course

Yep still thinking about the spec, Pure misses out on:
Comfort access - no big deal, but would like to have this time around.
Electric seats - don't care (prefer manual, lighter and I rarely adjust my seats)
Heated seats - don't care (prefer manual, lighter and I rarely adjust my seats)
Adaptive headlights - don't care
High beam assist - don't care
HK Audio - Want this - but might go aftermarket plug and play option if I pick this spec (like a Focal kit).
Alarm - I'll option this in
DCT - prefer the manual

[Knightelf]

Originally Posted by PeteA

Yep still thinking about the spec, Pure misses out on:
Comfort access - no big deal, but would like to have this time around.
Electric seats - don't care (prefer manual, lighter and I rarely adjust my seats)
Heated seats - don't care (prefer manual, lighter and I rarely adjust my seats)
Adaptive headlights - don't care
High beam assist - don't care
HK Audio - Want this - but might go aftermarket plug and play option if I pick this spec (like a Focal kit).
Alarm - I'll option this in
DCT - prefer the manual

Sounds like boils down to Comfort Access, which is not possible to retrofit (at least not easily/cheaply).

Aftermarket sound system > 2 series HK anyways.

$9k will get you a lot of aftermarket kit (*cough* Akra)... is the Comfort Access worth that much?

[WAY]

Originally Posted by Knightelf

Sounds like boils down to Comfort Access, which is not possible to retrofit (at least not easily/cheaply).

Aftermarket sound system > 2 series HK anyways.

$9k will get you a lot of aftermarket kit (*cough* Akra)... is the Comfort Access worth that much?

That is my issue. My car will be used as a run about and all my daily drivers have had comfort access for at least the last 5 years. I'm so used to it that it'll be like going back to using keys to unlock cars for someone used to using the remote.

[nick85]

Anyone have information on group buys for the M2? and anyone would be interested in this if it means reduced pricing?

[danielt]

Anyone here thought about buying the RS3? ... rather than waiting 6 months for the M2? I drove one the other day, definitely handled well, braked well, sounded great for a 2.5L engine! ... throttle response not as sharp as I would have thought - perhaps that's the turbo lag - but didn't wow me like when I drove the M235 some time ago. I'm only hoping the M2 will be that much better than the M235 ... can't wait for some journo reviews

[2Banger]

Originally Posted by danielt

Anyone here thought about buying the RS3? ... rather than waiting 6 months for the M2? I drove one the other day, definitely handled well, braked well, sounded great for a 2.5L engine! ... throttle response not as sharp as I would have thought - perhaps that's the turbo lag - but didn't wow me like when I drove the M235 some time ago. I'm only hoping the M2 will be that much better than the M235 ... can't wait for some journo reviews

IF they were the Sedan... They would definitely do so well, But Sportback/Wagon whats with that they already have so many :/ Rs4 & Rs6 it's sad really

I would honestly pick a Rs3 Sedan over M2 and i own a 2er.

[den525]

Originally Posted by danielt

Anyone here thought about buying the RS3? ... rather than waiting 6 months for the M2? I drove one the other day, definitely handled well, braked well, sounded great for a 2.5L engine! ... throttle response not as sharp as I would have thought - perhaps that's the turbo lag - but didn't wow me like when I drove the M235 some time ago. I'm only hoping the M2 will be that much better than the M235 ... can't wait for some journo reviews

Test drove the RS3 about 6 weeks ago... Let's see how should I put it... It's a great bit of kit... BUT Cost vs performance is not good enough... S3 at 70kish RS3 at 115k even with a 10k discount at 105k? It's not 35k better than the S3 and I'm afraid it's definitely not a 100k+ car!

But I don't think the M2 is worth $115k either (definitely not $30k+ better than m235i)... So yea I think these cars are a bit overpriced at full retail...

[nick85]

Has anyone bought an M2 and what prices did you get? anyone would like to share?

[andylena]

Originally Posted by nick85

Has anyone bought an M2 and what prices did you get? anyone would like to share?

hey i've put a deposit down for a m2 pure in blue with sunroof. paid 105k at BMW melbourne southbank. i was told i was the 4th person to put a deposit down and should expect delivery april-may

[nick85]

Originally Posted by andylena

hey i've put a deposit down for a m2 pure in blue with sunroof. paid 105k at BMW melbourne southbank. i was told i was the 4th person to put a deposit down and should expect delivery april-may

I thought the Pure didn't allow any options. Guess I was wrong..

[andylena]

Originally Posted by nick85

I thought the Pure didn't allow any options. Guess I was wrong..

Ye basically sunroof, alarm, paint and windscreen top tint are the only options on both the pure and the m2. The m2 comes with more standard gear such as hk sound, comfort access, alarm, adaptive lights but not any extra options.

[nick85]

Originally Posted by andylena

Ye basically sunroof, alarm, paint and windscreen top tint are the only options on both the pure and the m2. The m2 comes with more standard gear such as hk sound, comfort access, alarm, adaptive lights but not any extra options.

Nice, do you know when you get delivery? I still don't have any exact confirmations.

[andylena]

Originally Posted by nick85

Nice, do you know when you get delivery? I still don't have any exact confirmations.

I ordered from bmw southbank. . They told me i was 4th in line and should expect delivery in may

[david.orr]

Has anyone done a comparison between M2 and M4 pricing for equivalent features?

[05C4R]

anyone going to bathurst for the M2 track thingy

[roniiich]

Just put down a deposit for M2 AW DCT, manage to scrub the price down

[8y8]

Originally Posted by roniiich

Just put down a deposit for M2 AW DCT, manage to scrub the price down

Go on - can't leave us guessing .... what was the discount you got? Thanks