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05-17-2016, 01:55 PM | #155 |
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Literally has nothing to do with being a fanboy, explain to me how that's fan boy logic. If anything it's the opposite. I actually think you're a fanboy! Ha! Gotcha! You're ridiculous
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Lol, I wasn't trolling, just discussing, that's what these boards are for right?
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They can't produce that many M2s, so in order to compete and keep people from going outside of the brand, they have to offer a product that is more readily available.They = BMW Keep people from going outside of the brand = People buying a Mercedes/Audi/Whatever because they can't get an M2. Have to offer a product that is more readily available = Where the product is the M240i. So, to restate this — possibly more clearly, but probably not. BMW is producing the M240i with performance statistics that compete in a specific market segment. This market position would normally be filled by the M2, but the production numbers on the M2 are low, so BMW has to make a product that has higher availability, while remaining competitive in the market. That product is the M240i. My thoughts? Disagree. Occam's razor applies, and I think you're making it too complicated. When the E92 M3 was produced, the 335is was within 0.1 of the M3, and a lot of the same hand wringing was going on. There have always been a vocal segment of enthusiasts who swear that the M-car is a sucker's car, because a modded 335i could be just as fast. That wasn't a problem for the E92 M3, and the M240i won't be a problem for the M2.
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But those FENDERS! At this point I'm probably going to pass on the M2, get a non-BMW this year, and if they ever make one, get the M2 gran coupe.
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Oh and for the record, I was trying to get into an M235 for about a year or so. Once the M2 materialized, there was no way I would go for a 235 over that, albeit the M240 is impressive but in hindsight, I would go to Porsche before backtracking into a 240.
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Your statement was incoherent and makes no sense (as proven by two posters who had no idea WTF you're talking about). I don't understand what's so tough to get about it that you're a M2 fanboy. It's not a negative thing, you're just always on the M2's side which is understandable as you own one. You literally said BMW decided to make less M2's and fill the void it created by making a similarly performing M240i. Why would any company do that? And then after someone pointed out that what you said was ridiculous you said you don't even believe it yourself. |
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I think if there's any reason that the M2 and M240i are so close in HP and acceleration performance, this is it. BMW will happily sacrifice M2 sales in order to protect the M3/4. So there is a ceiling to M2 performance, but there is credibility to your point that the M240i has to compete in the broad market. I just don't think M2 availability plays in to it. BMW are in control of their production volumes. I also don't think the M2 is going to be particularly limited on the supply side.
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Most of the information on the M2 is still speculation anyway.
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I know the initial production batch of the M2 was limited but I have a feeling in subsequent runs they'll be a lot easier to get your hands on, and for MSRP too not a ridiculous markup.
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1. I don't deny that I love the M2, but when you make bullshit claims that I think it's the best BMW ever made and it's better than every other car, I end up thinking you're trolling and just being an asshole. 2. It made sense, I just didn't explain it well originally, that doesn't made it a fanboy point. Again, I am on mobile. 3. I acknowledged that my idea was simply conjecture, isn't that the opposite of what a fanboy would do? A fanboy would be rambling like it's a fact, I clearly stated it was just a theory. 4. When I said I didn't 100 believe it, what I meant was that I am not convinced that it is necessarily more than likely to be the case. The forum is for discussion. 5. Your statement regarding that 'BMW decided to make less M2s, then fill the void etc.' Is not in line with my idea. I was saying that the M2 isn't able to be produced as fast since it takes longer to build due to the parts, and the fact that it shares an assembly line with BMWs cash maker, the X1. I'm not an idiot. I was not suggesting that they just cut M2 production for the M240i for fun. So it looks like you misunderstood what I said, sure, maybe that's my fault. But when you put quotes around shit that I never said and doesn't represent my opinion, I think you're just a dick, hopefully that's understandable. M2 is a great car for me, I don't think it's a holy grail car, no I don't think it's better than an M3/4, and I think the Focus RS is more raw and better for lots of people. Now I'm calling a truce at this point because I am done arguing with you when you just put quotes around words that I've never said. Alright, let's move on.
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If you're looking to lease, this is the obvious choice. Numbers are very close to those put up by the m2. Maybe too close.
If you're a buyer, m2 all day.
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And I'm pretty sure I'm not the first person on this forum (not *nearly* the first) who has called you a M2 fanboy. Maybe that's why you're so butt hurt? Either way, nobody's telling you your car is garbage or unworthy of the pricetag. Like I said, you take the internet too seriously. |
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Not to gang up on Adem because he appears to be a good kid with his head on his shoulders and I'm sure he means well but you're most definitely an M2 fanboy based on observing your posts throughout the M2 forum over the last 2 years.
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Tough crowd.
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Sure fine, I'm a fanboy. But don't think for a second that I think the m2 is the best car available or the best BMW ever
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