[F80_M]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Awesome. Yeah it does. Is that dropped? Any issues with rubbing? Any modifications?

No issues at all. I'm lowered on H&R springs, and no modifications needed.

[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

I think I am going for it guys. I got someone interested in my current wheels so if that goes through I am going to order

HRE Flowform F15s 19x8.5 et40 + 5mm spacer and 19x9.5 et42

Ill get the tires when its a little warmer out but I am going to try the 235/265 combo!
Thanks for the help everyone hopefully everything comes together and I get a working set soon

I spoke to Rob at Need for speed and he said he spoke with HRE. They stated that with a 9.5 42 offset even a 255 would rub unless you run extreme camber.. I'm assuming outboard at fender.. If anyone could chime in that would be great..im wondering if a 265 PSS is possible at all with Dinan springs. Would the 19x9 ET44 be the better route to go ..?

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

I spoke to Rob at Need for speed and he said he spoke with HRE. They stated that with a 9.5 42 offset even a 255 would rub unless you run extreme camber.. I'm assuming outboard at fender.. If anyone could chime in that would be great..im wondering if a 265 PSS is possible at all with Dinan springs. Would the 19x9 ET44 be the better route to go ..?

19x9.5 ET42 would poke out 2mm less than Cloud's fitment so in theory, it shouldn't hit.

I was just feeling confident and about to order the 19x9.5 ET42 then read this

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

19x9.5 ET42 would poke out 2mm less than Cloud's fitment so in theory, it shouldn't hit.

I was just feeling confident and about to order the 19x9.5 ET42 then read this

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-...l-spacers.aspx

Turner also has 3mm wheels spacers which would get you to ET39 or ET41

[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

19x9.5 ET42 would poke out 2mm less than Cloud's fitment so in theory, it shouldn't hit.

I was just feeling confident and about to order the 19x9.5 ET42 then read this

I know, I'm in the same boat with you... I just figured you would rather know than not know... They pretty much guaranteed they wouldn't fit with a drop. I'm about to pull hair out as well.. According to Dinan, their S3 with 265 on rear had an ET of 48 on 19x9 BBS CH-R's and accommodated them. Damn it if I had a wheel/tire shop I would end this once and for all..! I linked their reply

http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=37

[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/BMW-...l-spacers.aspx

Turner also has 3mm wheels spacers which would get you to ET39 or ET41

I think they were meaning that you will rub outboard fender with such an aggressive ET and drop... If that's not what they meant then I am thoroughly confused.. I'm wondering if 18's with ET 44 may not be the better route but overall diameter is not much greater with 19's.

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

I think they were meaning that you will rub outboard fender with such an aggressive ET and drop... If that's not what they meant then I am thoroughly confused.. I'm wondering if 18's with ET 44 may not be the better route but overall diameter is not much greater with 19's.

Well wouldn't you have the same outside diameter either way when you size your tires appropriately?

Also I looked at a wheel sizing chart and it said max tire width on a 9" is 265. People say that the PSS measure a size up. Anyone think there would be issues with running a 265 PSS on a 9"?

[jmwilson125]

Also I am asking the rep I've been talking to about sizing right now. I will share what he says when he gets back to me.

[jmwilson125]

Cloud any last words of encouragement as far as ET42 or 44 in the rear? Any way you can post a picture of your wheels clearing the strut or fender? and by how much?

Think I am gonna bite the bullet this weekend as that sale on HRE wheels ends Monday

[Anderw]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Cloud any last words of encouragement as far as ET42 or 44 in the rear? Any way you can post a picture of your wheels clearing the strut or fender? and by how much?

Think I am gonna bite the bullet this weekend as that sale on HRE wheels ends Monday

I am running 19x9.5 et40 rear and before this set 19x9.5 et38 in the rear , et42 would easily work as my et40 works, et44 would be the "safe" route as it will give you an extra 2mm over even the et42. I am using a 255/30 Super sport , a 245/30 which michelin doesn't make in super sport would work better but its not necessary. (but going to look into when I need rears)

You will clear the strut easily and the the wheel will be flush with the fender, I only rubbed in extreme situations when the cars chassis flexes , coming out sideways of very steep driveways etc, every once in a while a large bump when in comfort mode, now that they have worn in a bit I guess what was rubbing is now not there so it doesn't matter much. Looks wise the et40 is borderline poke but just on the cusp , the et38 poked obviously 2mm more but the 235/35 i ran with it stretched the michelin pilot sport 2 tire enough to tuck the actual tire in the wheel well never once rubbing. the front was what rubbed for me 19x8.5 et35 with a 235/35 pilot sport 2 rubs , not horrible but it does , hence why my new setup is same size wheel but 225/35 , not a single rub ever (camber will fix any poking if you don't like it that is also lowering the car more would too, tho you're safe with et44 thats 6mm less aggressive and I was barely past the fender like 2mm)

I drove the car 1200 miles in January from NJ to FL and not gonna lie it rubbed on the rear because my girlfriends luggage was right over the wheel , after spreading it out more evenly , it rubbed only a hand full of times the rest of the way.

If I could shave 2mm off my wheels would I? To be honest yes definitely
Would i get et44 over et42? no I would go et42 not like the extra 2mm matters to concave lolol

If you need help or any questions on fitment ill try and help you as I've already tired 3 aggressive wheel and tire combos and Im lowered and up until recently spend most of the time on poorly paved NJ/NY roads just shoot me a PM (that goes for anyone who reads this also)

[Anderw]

19x8.5 et35
19x9.5 et40

225/35 - 255/30

Michelin Pilot Super Sport

[Anderw]

19x8.5 et35
19x9.5 et38

235/35/19 square

[Anderw]

Another picture to show wheels

& A failed center lock conversion wheel setup I gave up on lol

[wakemcs]

Originally Posted by kwsw

Another picture to show wheels

& A failed center lock conversion wheel setup I gave up on lol

Love the current setup. Do you have any photos from the top of the fenders looking down?

Also, why did you give up on the centerlock setup?

[Drpoomanchu]

thnx for the reply and help. my objective here is to try to fit a 265 PSS. on the rear as I'm sure you could tell. i can't speak for JMWILSON but i believe we are looking for similar results. the ET 42 is a 19x9.5 wheel. while the ET44 is a 19x9 wheel. I have never had a wheel off to look or had any other wheel/tire setup to go off of just reading on what everyone else has figured out to this point. As wilson said we are on limited time to try and use an educated opinion and take a stab.

[Drpoomanchu]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Well wouldn't you have the same outside diameter either way when you size your tires appropriately?

Also I looked at a wheel sizing chart and it said max tire width on a 9" is 265. People say that the PSS measure a size up. Anyone think there would be issues with running a 265 PSS on a 9"?

I don't think there is anything wrong with running a 265 on a 9" wheel from what I have read. I'm thinking fitment will be a bit safer with a 44 offset. i have also been debating on whether to go 18's at the same offset. 19's just seem to look better in most cases

[Luminous]

I'm in a similar boat, very close to pulling the trigger on the FF15s in 19" although I'm fine with 225/40 and 255/35 tires. I was also just told that the proper staggered setup for our cars is 19x8.5 et40 and 19x9 et44. Was told the 19x9.5 et42 wouldn't fit. I just don't want to lose any concavity with the 19x9 vs 9.5.

[Anderw]

Originally Posted by Luminous

I'm in a similar boat, very close to pulling the trigger on the FF15s in 19" although I'm fine with 225/40 and 255/35 tires. I was also just told that the proper staggered setup for our cars is 19x8.5 et40 and 19x9 et44. Was told the 19x9.5 et42 wouldn't fit. I just don't want to lose any concavity with the 19x9 vs 9.5.

I can confirm 19x9.5 et42 would most definitely fit , its all about tire size with the lower offset 9.5 rears , 255 and your good if your doing a Supersport it is still better then a 265 in another tires (besides R888/ Trofeo R) but I doubt your looking at either

[Cloud IX]

Originally Posted by jmwilson125

Cloud any last words of encouragement as far as ET42 or 44 in the rear? Any way you can post a picture of your wheels clearing the strut or fender? and by how much?

Think I am gonna bite the bullet this weekend as that sale on HRE wheels ends Monday

Sorry, been busy but I got some updates.

I would go 44 in the rear over 42 if you are planning on running 265s, unless the 42 has a concave/better looking face.

My setup WILL RUB with the M4 LCAs. I did not know that they pushed the wheel forward. I knew it pushed it out, but thought the negative camber would negate most of it. The rubbing is from the wheel being pushed foward though. Thinking of going back to stock LCAs, and trying a camber kit at this moment. This is only because I am going to track the car (On a different set of rims)
If I had no intention of tracking, I would have left it factory. Never rubbed anywhere with it.

Before the LCAs, I did not rub at all, but with the LCAs I've rubbed on a couple hard bumps on the freeway. Nothing in the city yet.

Originally Posted by Luminous

I'm in a similar boat, very close to pulling the trigger on the FF15s in 19" although I'm fine with 225/40 and 255/35 tires. I was also just told that the proper staggered setup for our cars is 19x8.5 et40 and 19x9 et44. Was told the 19x9.5 et42 wouldn't fit. I just don't want to lose any concavity with the 19x9 vs 9.5.

I would go 225/35/19 and 255/30/19 insted of the 40/35s.

[jmwilson125]

Originally Posted by Drpoomanchu

thnx for the reply and help. my objective here is to try to fit a 265 PSS. on the rear as I'm sure you could tell. i can't speak for JMWILSON but i believe we are looking for similar results. the ET 42 is a 19x9.5 wheel. while the ET44 is a 19x9 wheel. I have never had a wheel off to look or had any other wheel/tire setup to go off of just reading on what everyone else has figured out to this point. As wilson said we are on limited time to try and use an educated opinion and take a stab.

This is exactly what I am looking for. Did you ask HRE which offsets they have for 18" wheels

I have no preference between 18" and 19" as far as I am concerned 18" will be lighter, cheaper, and most likely cheaper tires. Along with a tiny bit more cushion for these New England roads

*update* if you buy on tirerack it is roughly $150 cheaper for a set on 18s

[Drpoomanchu]

I did and they are same offsets and wheel widths as 19's.. I'm so torn here.. Not sure what to do.. TBH I'm probably gonna go 19's 40 and 44 ET. I don't want to wrap money up in rear wheels and tires that I regret

[Anderw]

Originally Posted by wakemcs

Love the current setup. Do you have any photos from the top of the fenders looking down?

Also, why did you give up on the centerlock setup?

Thanks !
Ill take some looking down and post them for you

As for the center lock setup I Ran into some issues because F series uses 14x1.5 for wheel bolt/studs, and the conversion used a 12x1.25 stud setup into the hub, even with getting new studs the openings in the back of the wheel back plate wouldn't accept or I wasn't ready to find out if having them bored out to accommodate the new larger stud bolt head would the wheel structurally be sound since it was planned for track use/aggressive

Funny thing is I bought spacers way before for the stock wheels and I consider myself decently well versed in E/F series bmw info and I bought 14x1.5 extended lugs and I knew the difference between our car and pretty much any bmw made before 2014 in respect to the wheel Bolts and only realized the error when I went to mount them

It all works out , I went through 12 sets of wheels in 5 years with my e92 , and counting stock have had 4 sets for my 2 series in 1 year Im on pace to surpass that lol.

I need to buy a set of 3 piece wheels and stop playing with these cast wheels lol

Manhart Wide Body and BBS RS2s here I COME!!!

(Looking for 18 or 19 inch faces if anyone has them and reads this)