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the 135is was a limited affair and were tough to sell out. most of the cars sticker red around $50k. the number of people willing to spend $50k on a performance coupe is VERY SMALL. Just ask Audi about their TT and its sales figures in the US. most people looking at the M235 will just think "I should just get a 335". the 1er was unique in its segment....the 2er is far less unique. |
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I think most people completely balk at the notion of our cars costing $50k though from reactions and comments I've seen on the forum. Also crazy that my 2008 135 was $36k in comparison, though it was a complete stripper, like my ex-wife. |
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Oh, and to get this thread back on track re: BMW's ad - Here's a marketing vid for the 1-series that you may have seen before.
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I guess I'll need to see it in person or on the road.. but I would pass on that styling.
I would rather go the new 4er or late model 335.. etc. or maybe I'll keep my 135i forever.
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Pff, stealing the video I posted, eh? =P It's sad how many times I watched that back in 2008 waiting for the 135 to arrive and see one (and mine) in person for the first time. Oh that Sedona Red.
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Couldn't remember if you posted it or if it was mb135is!
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All me baby! Sadly, I just can't envision a Euro trash guy getting up there and trying to defend and explain all the lines and design cues on the M235. I know the 135 is probably more plain and simpler looking, but I think the design just flows better and is more cohesive than the 2. I could be tempted by an M2 though, if they decide to make one. I do want that damn 16 speaker, 600 watt harman kardon new sound system in the M235 though that's the same $875 priced option as ours. =(
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Im excited to see what the M2 looks like as well. I wont wait like I did on the 1M. I think they should call it the 2M, just because.
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I think they will eventually field an electric steering system with excellent feedback. I think Porsche has done a good job with theirs. Some purists will always shun an electric rack no matter how good it is.
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As an audiophile myself, I was very bummed (at first) that my 1er didn't come with HK audio. But I'm noticing that I usually just turn the stereo down or off while driving. Gotta hear that lovely engine. The audio is a total non-issue now.
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I prefer both loudly, simultaneously.
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01-20-2014, 01:19 PM | #103 |
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Been watching Videos of the M235i all day. I must say...I'm in love.
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M235 is kick ass. I love it and I love my 1 series too.
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01-20-2014, 02:23 PM | #106 |
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M235i is supposedly 3500~ lbs? That's nearly 200lbs more than the current 135i, that's kinda sad.
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Not necessarily, the US info says 3505 lbs, the Cdn info says 3360.
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Remember, the M235i comes standard with iDrive and 10 way power adjusting seats, and standard automatic. The 135i you could get with non electric seats and no iDrive. Also has adaptive suspension, which I assume adds weight as well. Not that it is an excuse, but I think a fully loaded 135i and M235i must weigh very similar, its just what BMW reports as STD for the USA.
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Now, if only BMW can confirm that they are going to build an M2, I would be so friggin' happy!
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Interesting post quoting a BMW NA rep re the M235i on another forum. Just gives another perspective and interesting comparison to the M3. For what it's worth, though understandably biased.
Here is some feedback from BMW NA rep.... "Thanks for sharing that. I have actually experienced a lot of positive hype surrounding the M235i, both in person, and at Detroit. Price wise, I find the M235i to be quick a nice value if you consider the price of a base 228i at $33k. For about $10k more, you get a car developed by M, M-Brakes, M Wheels, Pilot Super Sport Tires, M-Sport package, Dynamic Handling package, M-Tuned Exhaust, M-Performance Power Kit, M Developed pistons, tuned steering, and I believe Xenons. M described the car to me as a street car built for the track, where as an M3 for example is a track car tuned for the street. After living with the M235i for almost 3 months, I found it to be one of the most fun cars I have driven while being a perfect daily driver. My M3 can be a little much to drive every single day, but the M235i is very comfortable for this use, gets good MPG and can terrorize back roads when you want. Let me know if you have any questions!" Regional Product Trainer-West |
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