Do you regret going automatic?

lopealle · 02-09-2010, 10:05 PM

sometimes i miss having auto. the funny think is when people get in my car thy are surprised that its not auto.

SleepyE90 · 02-09-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

I love my auto for daily driving, and the manual mode satisfies me enough when I want to play. I would like a manual track car though, but for dd I need auto. The auto trans is a very good one. Be prepared for a bunch of auto hate.

Could not have said it any better my self.
Living in LA with a Manual as a DD would be a B****

Alexander · 02-09-2010, 10:10 PM

I moved from Downtown Atlanta to the Mountains and my god am I glad that I have a 6MT. I hated traffic, but I had an auto loaner for a month and I wanted to shoot myself in the face. Its fun to have rollback in traffic and fuck with people, also engine braking till 20 with no brake lights is fun as shit.

I tell people that I don't know how to drive an automatic.

airshane · 02-09-2010, 10:32 PM

6MT ... was a requirement when shopping for this one. Replaced my 6 Speed Tiptronic Jetta. I'd rather drive the car, not let the car drive me ... That being said, if I commuted everyday for work in traffic I might change my tune, but luckily being a consultant my DD is usually a rental in another city.

335iseb · 02-09-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by captainaudio

Everytime there is an AT vs. MT thread there will be "enthusiasts" who refuse to drive "slushboxes" who then go on to talk about "engine breaking" and coasting and other poor driving techniques.

In many cases the stronger the anti AT sentiment the worse the driver. There is a hell of a lot more to car control than shifting gears. A skilled driver can drive any car well.

CA

So the more I hate automatic transmission cars, the worse standard driver I am?

kd6lor · 02-10-2010, 12:28 AM

I have been driving manuals since the mid 70's. Trust me at some point it will no longer be a badge of honor. The rev-matching, easy up/down with the paddles or shifter, and 405 freeway traffic make the automatic a sensible choice.

Back in the day when you had to try to rev match an automatic with your throttle while shifting manually in a corner, the automatic was absolutely crazy for enthusiast driving. With the auto in the 335 I don't feel like I am losing much over the manual. Yes, a little, but nothing like a handful of years ago.

Favorite auto trick? Shooting down the road, preselecting a lower gear with the paddles as you approach a point where you want to rocket, then rocket. The pre-downshift is smooth due to the rev-matching. Slick.

Paul

edit -QUESTION For those with the manuals. Does your engine rev-match as you go into a lower gear? Thanks.

PJ

kd6lor · 02-10-2010, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Aonarch

Its fun to have rollback in traffic and fuck with people, also engine braking till 20 with no brake lights is fun as shit.

Don't they have (*%$$Y where you live?

Paul

VTECaddict · 02-10-2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kd6lor

edit -QUESTION For those with the manuals. Does your engine rev-match as you go into a lower gear? Thanks.

No. That's the 370Z.

captainaudio · 02-10-2010, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 335iseb

So the more I hate automatic transmission cars, the worse standard driver I am?

That as a question only you can answer.

CA

Dan in PA · 02-10-2010, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by VTECaddict

No. That's the 370Z.

Don't our cars do this when downshifting with cruise control activated? I don't know, I never use it.

Craig@SupremePower · 02-10-2010, 02:07 AM

hell no it's 2010....

captainaudio · 02-10-2010, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan in PA

Don't our cars do this when downshifting with cruise control activated? I don't know, I never use it.

?????

Dan in PA · 02-10-2010, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by captainaudio

?????

I vaguely remember reading that e9x cars with 6MT will either hold revs or rev match when selecting a lower gear if cruise control is activated. Is it true? I don't know, I usually don't use cc.

VTECaddict · 02-10-2010, 03:26 AM

Not sure, I hardly use cruise control either. Maybe I'll try it tomorrow if I remember.

blacksail337 · 02-10-2010, 08:33 AM

all 7 of my previous cars have been manuals, but now having a job that puts me in 2 hours of traffic a day, i went with steptronic for the 335.

NO regrets what so ever, these transmissions are so fast and smooth, it's honestly the best of both worlds. i love being able to comfortably creep in traffic, and then be perfectly consistent at the drag strip, AND downshift faster and more accurately 100% of the time at an auto cross or track event than any human hands and feet ever could.

and for regular everyday driving engine breaking is senseless wear and tear on your engine and trans, thats what brakes are for, brake pads are a bit cheaper than motors last time i checked!

absolutely love it, hope you do to!

Outlaw 06 · 02-10-2010, 08:52 AM

Someday in the distant future I MIGHT consider owning a slushbox-equipped BMW if I ever need to get a hip replaced or something… Until then, I’d never consider getting such an effete transmission in a performance car.

335e92tx · 02-10-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TJDiCandido

Someday in the distant future I MIGHT consider owning a slushbox-equipped BMW if I ever need to get a hip replaced or something… Until then, I’d never consider getting such an effete transmission in a performance car.

That legacy term is somewhat inaccurate when it applies to the n54/hp19. Drive one and you will (at a minimum) look for better terminology.

virtualbong · 02-10-2010, 09:46 AM

I used to have an Auto TSX and I couldn't take it anymore. I loved the car but I had a thirst for manual so I traded up for a 6MT G35 Coupe and now a 6MT e92. As long as I can shift, press down on the clutch and not drive in Cali like traffic then there is no way I am going back to an Automatic. Manuals are too much fun and it keeps my attention level up when I am driving so that I am not distracted by other things.

brinkmann · 02-10-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by VTECaddict

No. That's the 370Z.

Does a 370Z with a MT really rev-match for you when downshifting?

*edit*
I guess so..

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But it is, in fact, said manual tranny that is the 370's biggest advancement, at least on the race track. Besides offering better action - shorter, more precise throws - the 370Z offers the world's first Downshift Rev Matching system for a manual transmission. A plethora of sensors in the rear wheels and gearbox precisely matches the engine revs to the next gear down so that each downshift -no matter how quickly executed or at what speed - is absolutely smooth, all without the driver performing the traditional heal-and-toe pas de deux on the gas and brake pedals.

punky8d · 02-10-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nocturnal25

ok so sounds like i made the right decision then, i was leary about having a 6spd as a daily driver and figured the steptronic with the paddles would suffice when i want to play. when i do feel like rowing 6 gears though i can always pull the supercharged zo6 out of the garage

Goodluck on your purchase.. I have auto w/ paddles.. Had been having fun with it.. At one point i actually had a 2nd thought of why I got an auto instead of an MT since I've been used to MT on my previous cars.. The only reason actually is being able to rev while moving just to show off.. heheh loved it before...

I mean if you'll be using it as a commuter vehicle thinking about traffic and keeping your hand free, then it's best for you to have an AUTO..

Downshifting is actually pretty good.. Some people are actually using engine brakes on this AT.. heheh

on the posts here...

2009BMW335 · 02-10-2010, 10:34 AM

nope, i'm over manual cars. they're not very fun when most of your time is sitting in traffic

light · 02-10-2010, 12:28 PM

i had a automatic coupe.. never again.. u got people ask you every time . why did you get a automatic coupe?

now back to 6mt. love it.

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lopealle Resident Black Guy 251 Rep 2,302 Posts Drives: Lion Join Date: May 2009 Location: Federal Way, WA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 M5 [10.00]	sometimes i miss having auto. the funny think is when people get in my car thy are surprised that its not auto.
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Alexander Mad tyte EuR0 style boooi <--- Joke 212 Rep 2,472 Posts Drives: E30, E85, MKVI Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Deal's Gap iTrader: (0)	I moved from Downtown Atlanta to the Mountains and my god am I glad that I have a 6MT. I hated traffic, but I had an auto loaner for a month and I wanted to shoot myself in the face. Its fun to have rollback in traffic and fuck with people, also engine braking till 20 with no brake lights is fun as shit. I tell people that I don't know how to drive an automatic.
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airshane Private First Class 10 Rep 132 Posts Drives: 2008 328xi Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	6MT ... was a requirement when shopping for this one. Replaced my 6 Speed Tiptronic Jetta. I'd rather drive the car, not let the car drive me ... That being said, if I commuted everyday for work in traffic I might change my tune, but luckily being a consultant my DD is usually a rental in another city. __________________ 2008 Montego Blue 328xi 6MT w/ Premium, Sport, Logic7, Sirius, PDC, Sunshade, Xenon
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kd6lor Private First Class 9 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 08 335 Coupe Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orange County, California iTrader: (0)	I have been driving manuals since the mid 70's. Trust me at some point it will no longer be a badge of honor. The rev-matching, easy up/down with the paddles or shifter, and 405 freeway traffic make the automatic a sensible choice. Back in the day when you had to try to rev match an automatic with your throttle while shifting manually in a corner, the automatic was absolutely crazy for enthusiast driving. With the auto in the 335 I don't feel like I am losing much over the manual. Yes, a little, but nothing like a handful of years ago. Favorite auto trick? Shooting down the road, preselecting a lower gear with the paddles as you approach a point where you want to rocket, then rocket. The pre-downshift is smooth due to the rev-matching. Slick. Paul edit -QUESTION For those with the manuals. Does your engine rev-match as you go into a lower gear? Thanks. PJ
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blacksail337 Private First Class 53 Rep 190 Posts Drives: 07 335xi Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: fredericksburg, va iTrader: (0)	all 7 of my previous cars have been manuals, but now having a job that puts me in 2 hours of traffic a day, i went with steptronic for the 335. NO regrets what so ever, these transmissions are so fast and smooth, it's honestly the best of both worlds. i love being able to comfortably creep in traffic, and then be perfectly consistent at the drag strip, AND downshift faster and more accurately 100% of the time at an auto cross or track event than any human hands and feet ever could. and for regular everyday driving engine breaking is senseless wear and tear on your engine and trans, thats what brakes are for, brake pads are a bit cheaper than motors last time i checked! absolutely love it, hope you do to!
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Outlaw 06 Major 214 Rep 1,071 Posts Drives: M240i (daily driver) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	Someday in the distant future I MIGHT consider owning a slushbox-equipped BMW if I ever need to get a hip replaced or something… Until then, I’d never consider getting such an effete transmission in a performance car. __________________
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virtualbong Lieutenant Colonel 105 Rep 1,761 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW X5 MSport Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (2)	I used to have an Auto TSX and I couldn't take it anymore. I loved the car but I had a thirst for manual so I traded up for a 6MT G35 Coupe and now a 6MT e92. As long as I can shift, press down on the clutch and not drive in Cali like traffic then there is no way I am going back to an Automatic. Manuals are too much fun and it keeps my attention level up when I am driving so that I am not distracted by other things. __________________ 2015 BMW X5 35i M-Sport (White/Brown) - 4/16/18 (Current) 2011 BMW 550i M-Sport (Jet Black/Cinnamon Brown) - 4/30/14 \| 2007 BMW 328xi e92 (Jet Black/Coral Red) - PAST \| 2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe (Ivory White/Stone) - PAST \| 2005 Acura TSX (Obsidian Black/Black) - PAST \| 1998 Acura Integra (Black/Black) - PAST
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2009BMW335 Captain 36 Rep 674 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: davie, fl iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	nope, i'm over manual cars. they're not very fun when most of your time is sitting in traffic
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light Private First Class 8 Rep 139 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: VA iTrader: (2)	i had a automatic coupe.. never again.. u got people ask you every time . why did you get a automatic coupe? now back to 6mt. love it.
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