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A) BMW are testing updates to the M235i Racing. B) BMW are testing CSL/GTS parts on a car with a full cage, racing slicks, racing widebody, and racing aero. The latter suggestion is tinfoil hat territory. The M235i Racing will respond entirely differently to that wing than an M2 will. The information gleaned will be about as useful as data from the M4 GTS.
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For any interested in purchase the car here is the link
http://www.bmw-motorsport.com/en/cars/bmw-m235ir.html and here is the contact. Contact Email: M235i-Racing@bmw-motorsport.com
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My mind was a little blown by this when the M235iR first hit the front page. In this racing application, I can understand it though. Race cars are built to their intended purpose. Look at the difference between something like a DTM car and a GTLM car. The M235iR is built for the purpose of cup racing; where it will only compete against other identical cars.
So really, the only question is, can the ZF8 stand up to the abuse? Apparently, it can. ZF makes a hell of a product. In terms of performance, it's right up there with DCT, and this application shows that it can handle heavy abuse as well. When the M235iR showed up with the ZF8, I was really worried that the M2 would have a ZF8 as well. When the X5 M and X6 M showed up with a ZF8, I thought for sure that's what would be in the M2 as well. Fortunately, it looks like those suspicions were wrong. The leaked options lists specify DCT. Dodged that bullet!
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You're saying they wouldn't test an M2 wing on a car with racing slicks? Why wouldn't they? Whats the tires got to do with the wing? You suggest the wing is only good for a car that has that racing widebody and that racing aero. Maybe. But, the M2 has a very similar widebody. I don't find your logic all that compelling, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. |
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Testing a wing intended for the M2 on a car with a full cage, slicks, and race aero will not tell you anything meaningful about how the wing will perform on an M2. So why would BMW do that? Quote:
What does it mean to "test" a wing? What do the engineers developing the wing need to understand about it? Why test it on a track at all? Why not just use a wind tunnel and an actual M2? The goal of track testing components is to understand their effects on the car's handling. So, what can the handling of a car with a full cage, slicks, and race aero tell you about how said wing will affect a production M2? Zero. The racing slicks alone make it pointless. If this car had road tires. Maybe... Maaaaaybe it'd make some sense. Sorry, I'm not letting you off the hook that easy
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Speaking of not having any answers, where are your answers to any of the questions that would make sense of the CSL/GTS suggestions? What does it mean to "test" a wing? What do the engineers developing the wing need to understand about it? Why test it on a track at all? Why not just use a wind tunnel and an actual M2? Maybe they just wanted to make sure the car wouldn't flip over or blow up with it fitted? Amirite?
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While you're clinging onto the fact that an "official statement" hasn't necessarily been made as of yet. The empirical data that would be gathered from this test wouldn't seem to translate well, as we're not dealing with an apples-to-apples comparison. So, for this scenario only, how would it be beneficial when there are so many different variables to take into account if this were to be for an M2 CSL? That's like trying to gauge my running mile time using quarter-mile speed and I can't keep up said pace throughout the course of an entire mile. |
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Looks like a great car, still would be cooler woth a good ol manual transmission though
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Front calipers are made for this car by Performance Friction. I am pretty sure this is no M2 CSL, main reasons for my assumption being that: 1) it looks too nice :P and 2) it has too many parts in common with the current M235i racing variant. My guess is that they realized the M235i racing needs a little more tweaking to meet the demands of the racing series it is used to compete in. I also believe that this is an amazing car for its purpose. They should do this for the M3/M4 too. The DTM variant is obviously to much for the privateer team they are targeting. |
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Not that I think a wing is a bad idea. I'm actually rather surprised that it didn't have one from the beginning. Most production coupes aren't particularly good in the downforce department. That's not a favorable characteristic when you're racing lol.
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It is important to recognise that what is learned on the track will eventually come on the road...
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