04-17-2017, 01:19 PM | #45 | |
Major General
4527
Rep 8,942
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 01:19 PM | #46 |
Lieutenant
176
Rep 442
Posts |
Never said one was better than the other lol - You seem to be having a very difficult time accepting the facts here, Professionals who have tested the cars show that the auto is faster. Accept it and move on.
__________________
2024 ///M240ix |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:06 PM | #47 |
Major
888
Rep 1,202
Posts |
You can't seem to differentiate between real world use and professional testing, as most bench racers can't. Ya the auto is faster in a straight line, but when it comes to actually driving, this may shock you, but some of us actually don't care about half a second on our 0-60 times. Sometimes its about the driving, not numbers.
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:10 PM | #48 | |
Lieutenant
176
Rep 442
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2024 ///M240ix |
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:11 PM | #49 | |
Lieutenant
174
Rep 400
Posts |
Quote:
Couple of AutoX will wear out PSS pretty good before the winter. Question is that if it is worth to get a set of winter tire/wheel. If there is a big difference in dry grip in cold weather, I may get a dedicated winter set. Otherwise, it's not that big of a deal with all season in Chicago. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:12 PM | #50 |
Major
888
Rep 1,202
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:16 PM | #51 |
Private First Class
45
Rep 116
Posts |
I daily drive my 235 RWD in Minneapolis. I have really good snow tires, and a little bit of common sense, and I get around just fine. With that being said, it snows a lot here but being in the cities, they clear it quickly with plows and salt. I don't drive through snow too often relatively speaking. But the days that snow is on the pavement, I really do miss my Toyota 4Runner that had 4WD.
I think of it like this: You're only really sacrificing acceleration in the snow with RWD, after you accelerate from a stop most of the turning ability is up to your tires, not the AWD (unless your Mario Andretti on the streets and drive hella aggressive). |
Appreciate
1
simsimma77758.50 |
04-17-2017, 02:18 PM | #52 |
Lieutenant
176
Rep 442
Posts |
Trolling? I'm educating you.
__________________
2024 ///M240ix |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:20 PM | #53 |
Major
888
Rep 1,202
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:22 PM | #54 | |
Major General
4527
Rep 8,942
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:29 PM | #55 | |
Colonel
4096
Rep 2,925
Posts |
Quote:
Any hi-po summer tires will go to hell in the cold - usually 40 degrees is the stated temp, below that they can chunk/crack, and have a consistency much like a hockey puck. Don't try to run them in the winter temps, snow or not - even if you survive, the very expensive tires will not. If you don't get snow, just cold, then hi-perf winter tires or hi perf all-seasons may work well, but all-seasons won't be as good for summer fun. To me, in most areas it makes sense to have a dedicated winter set - what is the point of spending 40-50k on a performance car, and then not put proper tires on it - like an Olympic sprinter lining up for the race in après-ski boots. They also make for a simple, if bulky spare tire. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:29 PM | #56 |
Captain
766
Rep 623
Posts |
I went xdrive because I like the 'on rails' experience, plus with a JB4 even with fatter tires my car sometimes fails to hook properly when I go for a hard launch. The RWD model I tested was even more slippery.
Maybe if this car came with 275's at the back OEM I'd have gone RWD. |
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:31 PM | #57 |
Lieutenant
176
Rep 442
Posts |
I told you from the beginning my preference based on seasonal driving, which so happened to be your exact same reason for RWD. I told you from the beginning I wasn't looking for an argument and stated opinions of the popular on BOTH sides. I never stated one was better than the other. I stated a fact, One of which you have had trouble accepting. I think you finally understand that the auto is faster, no matter how you want to twist out of it. I haven't offered another argument as I wasn't looking for one as no one wins here except the auto vs manual in terms of fact based speed tests. Cool Story bro!
__________________
2024 ///M240ix |
Last edited by ChuckAWDM2; 04-17-2017 at 02:39 PM.. |
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:31 PM | #58 | |
Major General
951
Rep 5,552
Posts |
Quote:
Its all facts 1. AWD with proper tires would be abit safer in snow, less chances of getting stuck 2. AWD and Auto are faster due to grip from stand still and due to faster shifting, easier to drive . 1. RWD and manual are just more fun to drive since its YOU who actually drives the car not electronics etc, AWD and RWD are equally fast from 5mph roll and in corners but RWD is more challenging. (with the exception of small weight penalty on Xdrive) PS. I always wanted the fastest and the best handling.....but then I realized, I dont compete on track, I dont drag race, I usually dont launch my car from lights, and all snow here gets cleaned within hours. I actually prefer to stay home and avoid driving in salt and potentially get hit by some AWD SUV drivers on all-season tires. Who knows someday and maybe even next car will be AWD and Auto.....you get older and you care less about throwing you back out and shifting through gears |
|
Appreciate
1
simsimma77758.50 |
04-17-2017, 02:33 PM | #59 |
Lieutenant
174
Rep 400
Posts |
I think this is the key. (more than winter tire vs awd)
At least in the U.S., driver license is way too easy to get and too many stupid drivers are out there. I have seen many drivers using winter tire SPEEDING on the snowy road. Many of them ended in ditch. use the common sense. slow down if the condition is bad. 90% of the.time, it's the driver. not the tire or awd. |
Appreciate
2
Raptor0120.00 bimmerfile622.50 |
04-17-2017, 02:44 PM | #60 | |
Major General
4527
Rep 8,942
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:53 PM | #61 |
Lieutenant
219
Rep 518
Posts |
Just a FYI guys, PSS crack when its around 30 degrees.
__________________
Estoril Blue 6spd M235i LSD Sunroof delete AWE touring exhaust Fabspeed sport cat
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:53 PM | #62 | |
Lieutenant
174
Rep 400
Posts |
Quote:
there are lots of winter vs summer tire and all season vs winter tire on snow. If you can find any test that shows the all season vs winter tire in cold dry condition, please let me know. Thanks |
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:53 PM | #63 | ||
Major
888
Rep 1,202
Posts |
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:54 PM | #64 |
Lieutenant
219
Rep 518
Posts |
Also the amount of automotive shitposting in this thread reminds me of 4chan's /o/.
__________________
Estoril Blue 6spd M235i LSD Sunroof delete AWE touring exhaust Fabspeed sport cat
|
Appreciate
0
|
04-17-2017, 02:57 PM | #66 | |||
Lieutenant
176
Rep 442
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2024 ///M240ix |
|
|||
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|