10-26-2013, 06:41 PM | #463 |
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A bit soon for this probably, but what is the ordering process like? I have a lease due to end in February and intend to buy a 228i as my next car. I'd contacted dealers a week or two ago to see what they'd say (knowing that the car hadn't been shown and prices not revealed), and only one contacted me back saying that they were taking orders.
I'm reluctant to put $1000 down anywhere even if it is refundable without knowing what my end cost is going to be with the dealer. I've read elsewhere that anywhere between $1,200 and $1,800 over invoice is reasonable for a new model? Thoughts on this? When can we expect invoice/msrp prices for everything? |
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10-26-2013, 07:28 PM | #465 |
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BTW, from your questions I'm guessing you missed this one: http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=901686. |
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10-26-2013, 07:47 PM | #467 |
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Did anyone see any information of a launch date for the convertible? I'm going to get a 228 M Sport w/manual but I've owned 5 BMW convertibles and have to make it 6.
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"- Can you tell me which of these models will come to market, and which ones we'll never see? - No." I am not dismissing this of course. Certainly the general engine and model codes are sound. It's a good reference point and certainly something to keep an eye on. So again, thanks for posting. |
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10-26-2013, 08:59 PM | #471 |
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Anyone know if the "M Performance Kit" which was referenced by someone at BMW to be available for the M235i will be at launch? I assumed the LSD would be part of that kit. Not sure what else would be included as part of it? I know the LSD will be available at launch!
Any guesses or assumptions? : )
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10-26-2013, 09:39 PM | #474 |
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has anyone put $5k deposit for the spot?
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10-26-2013, 09:41 PM | #475 |
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mine was $1,000, refundable. Won't even process the check until the car arrives .
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It will actually be interesting to revisit the VIN database when M3/4 goes into production, to see if BMW changed the hp values after the fact. Quote:
I wish I could explain where my info comes from, it would be much easier to show what kinds of data are available. But you remember how it all worked out when I started talking about my source of VINs. What I have today is pitiful compared to that, I don't want to lose it too. Even though I'm pretty sure it would be much more difficult for BMW to block this one. |
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10-27-2013, 12:46 AM | #478 |
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10-27-2013, 04:56 AM | #479 | |
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I'm really beginning to seriously question the direction BMW are taking. About time they dropped the Ultimate Driving Machine tag, as 90% of what they are now making isn't deserving of that tag.
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At a high level my personal thinking is that we'll see the B48 and B58 sweep through the BMW lineup in a fairly whirlwind fashion just as the N20, N55, and N63Tu have in recent times (and still are). Parts commonality is driving the business case and they'll want to get ROI in timely fashion. If there is foot dragging and what appears to us "outsiders" to be strange decisions and inconsistencies then certainly the details you've dug up deserve the focus. If we could learn in advance about situations like we have today with the N54 holding on tightly in the Z4 LCI not just in the 35is model but even the 35i that's certainly a win. Just as important, perhaps more so, is the power levels and so forth. These things are typically popular questions around the forum. We've seen reports of the potential for up to 133hp/L for the new engine family in regular series cars. I am sure it won't be there initially, especially for the B58, but it is of keen interest to everyone where things land for the first release. There's going to be a degree of disappointment if the standard N55 is replaced with a 300hp B58. |
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And here's my evidence. however flimsy (still relying on the old VIN search results, even with that F82 thing, there's nothing better still): B38B0M0 will be used in the new Mini Cooper and the 316i LCI. Mini Cooper was listed in the VIN database as having 100kW or 134hp. The current 316i is 134hp. B48B0M0 will go into Cooper S and 320i LCI. Cooper S was listed with 140kW or 189hp, while the 320i has 180hp. When the new Minis are out in a few weeks, we'll know for sure. |
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B48: 192hp, 280Nm from 1250RPM, 300Nm "Overboost" B38: 136hp, 220Nm from 1250RPM, 230Nm "Overboost" Up-to 7% less CO2 emissions, nothing about fuel consumption unfortunately... |
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10-27-2013, 01:47 PM | #484 |
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are we going to get the alcantara/fabric option on the M235i here?
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