[Outrun]

Beautiful car, I have Estoril Blue also and I would definitely recommend getting EB colored mirror caps, looks so good!

[virtguy]

Gorgeous pic of a gorgeous car (2016 EB M235i here, too). I'd love to have the full res version if you don't mind sharing it.

[thesanjiu]

Congrats on the car! I'm also checking in with an EBII M235i in the San Diego area. Hope to see you around!

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by JasonPetrie

He never stated that he had an M car. "BMW recommends that M cars get their first oil change at 1,200 miles so I decided if it was good enough for them it was good enough for my M235".

Thats the problem with our society, people jump at the opportunity to sh*t on others just to sh*t. It would have been just as easy for your comment to read, "nice car" but you had to go the other way. I guess treating others the way you'd like to be treated is much harder when hidden behind a computer screen. Nice job, now everyone here knows we don't drive real M cars. :thump:

and to the OP, beautiful car. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my BSM, but every time i see an EBII it makes me a little regretful that I didn't go that direction.

You need to calm down.

[xantdieselx]

Originally Posted by aboutpsm

by iPhone6s

Beautiful!

[ChuckAWDM2]

Nice that your dealer offered that. I'm approaching 1200 miles so I called my dealer aka the only bmw dealer in Utah, who told me no and that the oil change would cost $250!

How in the hell can a oil change cost that much? I didnt stay on the phone long enough to get a breakdown. The oil and filter can be had for around $70-80 - I'll just do it myself.

[Corinne]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

You need to calm down.

NO ! Please don't calm down - I just LOVE a good argument !

[JulietAlpha]

Originally Posted by M235iguy

Nice that your dealer offered that. I'm approaching 1200 miles so I called my dealer aka the only bmw dealer in Utah, who told me no and that the oil change would cost $250!

How in the hell can a oil change cost that much? I didnt stay on the phone long enough to get a breakdown. The oil and filter can be had for around $70-80 - I'll just do it myself.

Was that BMW of Murray? When looking for my car, they told me if I ordered a car I WOULD PAY MSRP!!!! I laughed, gave them one more chance to revise that statement, which they didn't, and moved on.

[djarchow]

Originally Posted by M235iguy

Nice that your dealer offered that. I'm approaching 1200 miles so I called my dealer aka the only bmw dealer in Utah, who told me no and that the oil change would cost $250!

How in the hell can a oil change cost that much? I didnt stay on the phone long enough to get a breakdown. The oil and filter can be had for around $70-80 - I'll just do it myself.

At my dealer, if they do the full BMW oil service which includes the inspection, resetting the the oil service light and some other stuff it is about $200. If I just get them to change the oil it is about $100. They will always try to do the more expensive one. I just found a page talking about BMW value service which allows you to check prices at your dealer. The 2 series isn't listed though:
http://www.bmwusaservice.com/valueservice/

[sstarrx3]

If they will not do it as part of BMWs 3 or 4 year standard free maintenance...it does not need to be done.

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by sstarrx3

If they will not do it as part of BMWs 3 or 4 year standard free maintenance...it does not need to be done.

You can find threads where people have installed a magnetic oil drain plug then changed the oil after the first 5,000 miles and found a ball of metal shavings stuck to it. I didn't lease my car, I bought it. I have been taught by my dad to respect my mechanical toys. That means no rodding when the engine oil is cold either. These little things can pay dividends when the engine is older, then again, if you are leasing you probably don't care. The reason BMW and other manufacturers don't advocate changing the oil earlier isn't because it shouldn't be done, it is because of cost.
http://blog.**********s.com/15000-mile-oil-change-myth/

[hoppy6698]

To OP: Nice shot in the garage! You can code out the corner ambers while the halos are on, they still come on when you use a blinker, but I think it cleans up the front look while the DRLs are on.

[merlin3008]

Congrats...I agree that the black grills would look excellent. It's the first thing I did to my car. There is no other chrome on the M235. The window trim is dark and the wheels are painted. I always thought that the chrome trimmed grill looked out of place.

[Monsieur_G]

Congratulations, and great color choice I love my AW but that was a close second.

[Reznick]

Originally Posted by AlpsRider

You can find threads where people have installed a magnetic oil drain plug then changed the oil after the first 5,000 miles and found a ball of metal shavings stuck to it. I didn't lease my car, I bought it. I have been taught by my dad to respect my mechanical toys. That means no rodding when the engine oil is cold either. These little things can pay dividends when the engine is older, then again, if you are leasing you probably don't care. The reason BMW and other manufacturers don't advocate changing the oil earlier isn't because it shouldn't be done, it is because of cost.
http://blog.**********s.com/15000-mile-oil-change-myth/

This. It's good to know I'm not the only one who was taught these lessons. ALL new engines are going to shed metal during break in. Regardless of it being an "M" or not, the oil should be changed early. It all comes down to money. In the end it's probably not a big deal to most people and their car will run fine for years to come. But we've sent out oil samples from some of our new cars for analysis ( we do this a lot with large diesel engines that have a fresh rebuild).I wouldn't want all that metal floating around in my engine for another 15K.I know people will scoff and say this is old school thinking, but with tolerances for modern engines getting tighter and tighter, it only strengthens my point.

[morphomeman]

A very large fraction of new BMW's are leased, not sold. This means that the leased car goes back to BMW after a fairly short interval and that they resell the cars, often as CPO vehicles. It is in the interest of BMW to ensure that these cars, which usually have 30-45K miles on them, are in the best possible condition. If the cars benefitted from an oil change at 1200 miles, BMW would mandate it and pay for it,, because it is in their interest to ensure that the car remain in top condition when it is returned (same reason for 'free' maintenance overall). The fact that they don't mandate an early oil change tells me that there is no problem with the longer interval on all but the fussiest set-ups (real M).
For what it is worth, my M235 told me it needed an oil change at 9K miles. My wife's X3 started screaming at her at 5K miles. The difference: she drives 30 miles each way to work and back every day, mostly on local roads at speeds under 40 mph. I drive short distances locally and occasionally on long trips. The car knows!

[AlpsRider]

Originally Posted by morphomeman

A very large fraction of new BMW's are leased, not sold. This means that the leased car goes back to BMW after a fairly short interval and that they resell the cars, often as CPO vehicles. It is in the interest of BMW to ensure that these cars, which usually have 30-45K miles on them, are in the best possible condition. If the cars benefitted from an oil change at 1200 miles, BMW would mandate it and pay for it,, because it is in their interest to ensure that the car remain in top condition when it is returned (same reason for 'free' maintenance overall). The fact that they don't mandate an early oil change tells me that there is no problem with the longer interval on all but the fussiest set-ups (real M).
For what it is worth, my M235 told me it needed an oil change at 9K miles. My wife's X3 started screaming at her at 5K miles. The difference: she drives 30 miles each way to work and back every day, mostly on local roads at speeds under 40 mph. I drive short distances locally and occasionally on long trips. The car knows!

The car knows? I rest my case.

[Tpeterson]

Originally Posted by morphomeman

A very large fraction of new BMW's are leased, not sold. This means that the leased car goes back to BMW after a fairly short interval and that they resell the cars, often as CPO vehicles. It is in the interest of BMW to ensure that these cars, which usually have 30-45K miles on them, are in the best possible condition. If the cars benefitted from an oil change at 1200 miles, BMW would mandate it and pay for it,, because it is in their interest to ensure that the car remain in top condition when it is returned (same reason for 'free' maintenance overall). The fact that they don't mandate an early oil change tells me that there is no problem with the longer interval on all but the fussiest set-ups (real M).
For what it is worth, my M235 told me it needed an oil change at 9K miles. My wife's X3 started screaming at her at 5K miles. The difference: she drives 30 miles each way to work and back every day, mostly on local roads at speeds under 40 mph. I drive short distances locally and occasionally on long trips. The car knows!

30-45K miles is 10K-15K per year on a 3year lease. A CPO runs for 2 more years after the factory warranty for a total of 6 years of car use. That would be 60k-90K miles.So you're right BMW maintenance should easily get a car that far. But if you want to keep a car for longer than those mileages,and BMW's have traditionally lasted 200+K miles with meticulous maintenance,you would do much more maintenance than BMW recommends.Their "lifetime" fluids,for instance,just mean a shorter lifetime for those components.

[Reznick]

Originally Posted by morphomeman

A very large fraction of new BMW's are leased, not sold. This means that the leased car goes back to BMW after a fairly short interval and that they resell the cars, often as CPO vehicles. It is in the interest of BMW to ensure that these cars, which usually have 30-45K miles on them, are in the best possible condition. If the cars benefitted from an oil change at 1200 miles, BMW would mandate it and pay for it,, because it is in their interest to ensure that the car remain in top condition when it is returned (same reason for 'free' maintenance overall). The fact that they don't mandate an early oil change tells me that there is no problem with the longer interval on all but the fussiest set-ups (real M).
For what it is worth, my M235 told me it needed an oil change at 9K miles. My wife's X3 started screaming at her at 5K miles. The difference: she drives 30 miles each way to work and back every day, mostly on local roads at speeds under 40 mph. I drive short distances locally and occasionally on long trips. The car knows!

It's a cost versus risk thing. It's in BMW's( and all car manufacturers)best interest to make the most profit they can while still having a happy customer.BMW's real concern is with the first 50k miles of their vehicles, not the entire life of the engine. The average person is never going to know or care about the damage that is caused by debris from a break in cycle.As long as the car keeps running they'll be happy. As long as there is no catastrophic failure, no big deal? I treat my cars like I'm going to keep them long term. Anyone who has seen just how black and broken down oil can be after a long interval change knows what a joke it is.My goal is for my cars to run the best they can for as long as they can.

"For what it is worth, my M235 told me it needed an oil change at 9K miles. My wife's X3 started screaming at her at 5K miles. The difference: she drives 30 miles each way to work and back every day, mostly on local roads at speeds under 40 mph. I drive short distances locally and occasionally on long trips. The car knows"

Most modern cars have this feature. It's simply recognizing your different driving habits and recommending the oil be changed based off of that. So no, the car doesn't know. If it did it would have had you in about 3K miles sooner

[B_Rice]

I heard bmw used to have a complimentary break in service for all vehicles back in the day.

[qnet]

Congrats on the new car, it's the same color as mine I got almost two months ago.