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Great write up and I can't wait for the video.
I can't believe no one else noticed - the stupid fucking roundel is missing from his left front wheel ! This has happened to me TWICE now - this after owning 4 other BMWs and never losing one... Back on topic.
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I won't be tracking the car and won't be adding a tune to it either.. I wonder if the LSD will show itself on an automatic without the additional grunt. Even the 2008 M3 I had, needed a bit of a booting to summon the power to start a nice slide. I don't feel the M235 has that amount of torque except on extremely tight hooligan doughnuts. Feedback please!
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Edit: Just saw your sig. Love those mini's
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The N55 in the M235i actually has more torque (330 lb ft vs 295 lb ft) than the S65 in the M3; my 135i had about the same (300 lb ft). I test drove a sport auto M235i, and I could definitely feel those extra 35 lb ft. The big difference is in the character though. The torque in the M235i comes on very early, and the way the turbo spools up, I felt like I had more trouble spinning a single tire in my 135i than I've ever had in my M3. The LSD in the M3 has a lot to do with that, but the torque delivery of the turbocharged N55 provides an incentive for owners to pick up an LSD. The other thing you have to consider is how you're going to drive it though. Under normal driving circumstances, you're not going to run in to the need for an LSD. The M235i has some electronic traction control stuff going on that will do more than you need for day-to-day driving. The LSD just isn't going to show up on your radar in around town driving. It only shows up when you break traction. On that note, there is something to be said for winter weather performance. I'm from Florida, so obviously I don't have any snow driving experience, but I've done plenty of off-road driving in limited traction environments, and a limited slip diff (or a diff locker!) is a real benefit in those situations. IMO, it's an expensive option for someone who will never auto-x or track their car at all. For spirited drives, it's unnecessary, IMO. If you're driving 9/10ths on the street, your money will be better spent on lawyers If you ever plan on doing a HPDE, auto-x, or track day, it sure is nice, but you gotta consider the ROI on that kind of thing.
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Thanks for the comments... I loved booting the M3 and hanging the tail out. But that Car had the balls to do very easily. I'm just bummed that BMW is making things difficult for me. I guess I was just looking for someone with first hand experience to say the LSD is a waste unless you want to do Track work, donuts or you have a manual that you can drop the clutch and throw her around. I have driven the M235 quite abit with DSC OFF and the Active Diff works great to a point just don't know if highly spirited street driving is going to be covered by the e-diff or will need a true LSD. My E90 with MPPK and automatic will spin the inside wheel on some off camber uphill corners but that car does not have the latest e-diff like the newer cars. Thanks for the great feedback and good laugh at the end.
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this argument - that an LSD is a waste of money for the street - comes up every now and then and makes sense on its face. however, it ignores the fact that we're buying a sports/sporty car instead of a camry (and spending a lot more money to do it) because we all want to have fun when we're driving. the LSD makes a fun car more fun. how much more fun? is that extra fun worth the extra expense? completely subjective.
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I'm biased but plus 1!
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