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      04-17-2019, 12:59 PM   #1
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Anyone have/know where to get 2-piece rear rotors

hey watsup guys, does anyone here, run or know where to get 2-piece rotors for the rear? i cant seem t find a 2 piece for the rear of the F22
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Honestly, I've looked lol.

Unless you get one of the custom "made-to-order" companies like RacingBrake, you're not going to have much luck. I only ended up with mine because the BBK I bought came with them, otherwise I never intended on changing them.

FWIW the M2**iR uses factory rear rotors/calipers with a PFC front BBK. Once you install the bigger fronts, dial the brake bias forward and you'll see how little the rear is actually doing.

IIRC, you have a sweet BBK up front, already? Did you update the brake bias already? I only ask because I didn't at first, to see the difference, and it was night/day.
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Honestly, I've looked lol.

Unless you get one of the custom "made-to-order" companies like RacingBrake, you're not going to have much luck. I only ended up with mine because the BBK I bought came with them, otherwise I never intended on changing them.

FWIW the M2**iR uses factory rear rotors/calipers with a PFC front BBK. Once you install the bigger fronts, dial the brake bias forward and you'll see how little the rear is actually doing.

IIRC, you have a sweet BBK up front, already? Did you update the brake bias already? I only ask because I didn't at first, to see the difference, and it was night/day.

haha yea man i was trying to avoid those made to order companies. And yea i already have the StopTech Trophy BBK up front and adjusted the bias at the time of install and your right the rears dont do a whole lot lmao. Maybe im getting to that point where im buying shit just to do it lmao.
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hey watsup guys, does anyone here, run or know where to get 2-piece rotors for the rear? i cant seem t find a 2 piece for the rear of the F22
Search for "Pilenga" rotors. Italian company that is the OEM supplier for these 2 piece rotors. They sell rear and front 2 piece at almost half price compared to dealer. They come off the same assembly line.

https://www.autopartsway.ca/partdeta.../pagenum1/tabs
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Search for "Pilenga" rotors. Italian company that is the OEM supplier for these 2 piece rotors. They sell rear and front 2 piece at almost half price compared to dealer. They come off the same assembly line.
Here's a US supplier of Pilenga rotors: https://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/20...?brand=pilenga

Pilengas are not, however, two-piece rotors in the conventional sense of the term. That is because the hats cannot be reused. This Essex Parts M2 Competition two-piece rear rotor is an example of what a two-piece rotor looks like, with a reusable hat bolted to a replaceable ring:
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Is there any advantage to a reusable hub? I'd be concerned about the assembly process of the new rotor to a used hub and whether it's as robust as a factory made set like the Pilengas.

Thank you for the Pilenga link btw. With the factory like aluminum hubs, those look like the replacement rotors I would go for when it comes time to replace.
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Is there any advantage to a reusable hub? I'd be concerned about the assembly process of the new rotor to a used hub and whether it's as robust as a factory made set like the Pilengas.

Thank you for the Pilenga link btw. With the factory like aluminum hubs, those look like the replacement rotors I would go for when it comes time to replace.
Well, the rotor rings are cheaper than they would be if they came with a rotor hat permanently attached, so there's that.

Two-piece rotors are much more a race part than they are a street part. I'm not sure I'd run one on the street if I used the car as a DD. I had them on a race car and used a shop to change the rings out when they were used up.

About two-thirds of the way down in the following link you can read about how a two-piece rotor works. The entire page is well worth reading if performance braking systems are of interest to you.

https://www.essexparts.com/essex-des...-m2competition
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^^ FYI I DD mine for 6 months/year with two piece floating configuration. It's super easy to swap rings, you just need confidence in yourself lol. The first time I did it, I took my sweet time on a bench with hand tools.

You can run a two piece "fixed" setup, which reduces all/any noise associated to a floating design. Mine don't make noise at all, like others report..


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haha yea man i was trying to avoid those made to order companies. And yea i already have the StopTech Trophy BBK up front and adjusted the bias at the time of install and your right the rears dont do a whole lot lmao. Maybe im getting to that point where im buying shit just to do it lmao.
Yea, I mean, if the iR doesn't "need" them for endurance racing, I think you're good. The OE rotors are much better than they're given credit for. It's technically a two-piece steel/aluminum riveted design.

What I might suggest is a pad out back that bites hard, like XP10's, can help balance things out if you're "nose diving" a bit too much up front.

I had been driving a track prepped TTRS with a team of colleagues with stock brakes PFC-08 pads up front (endurance) and the XP10's in the rear, and after 4 combinations, that's what felt best on course for lengthy track sessions. It was nose diving really bad without the harder biting pads out back, it made a substantial difference. BTW, those rear TTRS calipers are single piston Golf R calipers, casted and all, the two piston Brembo's should do better for sure..
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^^ FYI I DD mine for 6 months/year with two piece floating configuration. It's super easy to swap rings, you just need confidence in yourself lol. The first time I did it, I took my sweet time on a bench with hand tools.

You can run a two piece "fixed" setup, which reduces all/any noise associated to a floating design. Mine don't make noise at all, like others report..




Yea, I mean, if the iR doesn't "need" them for endurance racing, I think you're good. The OE rotors are much better than they're given credit for. It's technically a two-piece steel/aluminum riveted design.

What I might suggest is a pad out back that bites hard, like XP10's, can help balance things out if you're "nose diving" a bit too much up front.

I had been driving a track prepped TTRS with a team of colleagues with stock brakes PFC-08 pads up front (endurance) and the XP10's in the rear, and after 4 combinations, that's what felt best on course for lengthy track sessions. It was nose diving really bad without the harder biting pads out back, it made a substantial difference. BTW, those rear TTRS calipers are single piston Golf R calipers, casted and all, the two piston Brembo's should do better for sure..

lmaoo i DD'd mine full race seats and all for like 6 months (recently got a jetta for the daily lmao) haha yea i know man, ive done just about everything on my car by myself lmaoo, and yea i feel that for sure, the best feeling combo for me has always been the ferodo DS2500 all around honestly (used to have StopTech SR34's up front and SR33's in the rear)
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Search for "Pilenga" rotors. Italian company that is the OEM supplier for these 2 piece rotors. They sell rear and front 2 piece at almost half price compared to dealer. They come off the same assembly line.

https://www.autopartsway.ca/partdeta.../pagenum1/tabs
I just ordered a set, its funny seeing the BMW branded vs Pilenga branded rotor right underneath it for half price... or more.

You can get the Pilenga drilled/slotted which are basically the M performance rotors for less than half of the BMW branded ones.

I plan on pairing these up with EBC yellows.
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I just found these units by Paragon Performance. Havent seen any reviews for our chassis yet, but they appear to be popular in the Corvette and GTR tracking community. $900 up front and $550 for replacement rotors. Quite a bit lighter too. Claimed ~3.5 lbs of weight savings per corner.

https://paragonbrakes.com/2-piece-ro...mance-m-sport/

https://paragonbrakes.com/2-piece-ro...mance-m-sport/

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I just found these units by Paragon Performance. Havent seen any reviews for our chassis yet, but they appear to be popular in the Corvette and GTR tracking community. $900 up front and $550 for replacement rotors. Quite a bit lighter too. Claimed ~3.5 lbs of weight savings per corner.
Good find! Looks like the real deal, with prices to match.
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I pulled the trigger on the Paragon units. Pricey, but a friend I trust who holds several FK8 Type-R track records around the West Coast has them and highly recommends them. Paired with EBC Blues and Ate200 should make for a killer setup. Ill provide a review after theyre on.
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I just found these units by Paragon Performance. Havent seen any reviews for our chassis yet, but they appear to be popular in the Corvette and GTR tracking community. $900 up front and $550 for replacement rotors. Quite a bit lighter too. Claimed ~3.5 lbs of weight savings per corner.

https://paragonbrakes.com/2-piece-ro...mance-m-sport/

https://paragonbrakes.com/2-piece-ro...mance-m-sport/
PM us. We are a Paragon dealer!

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