[2msport]

Originally Posted by Michall

I think it's not available for a M235i yet. Do you have it installed on your 228? If yes, how do you like it? Did you get just the software or other Dinan suspension mods, too?

It's not out yet for the 235. But I'm sure it will be soon. Something to look forward to.

I have it on my MT 228, with no other suspension mods. I do love it. I wish the car came from the factory with it. The issue I think you're experiencing comes down to the software with the dampers. The upgrade stiffens the ride up, eliminates almost all body roll (I think you'd have to be AutoXing to see body roll) but more importantly squashes the extra rebound in both sport and comfort. (I heard they change ECO to a lesser degree) The ride is firm and Very planted/flat yet still comfortable. The car is more neutral now and tends to oversteer much easier due to the weight shifting less. I HIGHLY recommend this to anyone who bought this car to be driven.

[2msport]

Originally Posted by RPM90

BTW, have BMW upgraded the HK audio system that costs as much as the HK upgrade in the F30, but isn't in the same league at the one in the F30?
I read that BMW was giving early 2 series owners a refund for their HK upgrade because it wasn't up to par with what is in the F30 yet costs the same.

I was one of those buyers who got a refund. It wasn't that we subjectively thought it wasn't as good, but that they advertised it Everywhere incorrectly. A 16 speaker 600Watt system as opposed to the 12 speaker and 360W it came with. I like the HKs in the 2.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by 2msport

I was one of those buyers who got a refund. It wasn't that we subjectively thought it wasn't as good, but that they advertised it Everywhere incorrectly. A 16 speaker 600Watt system as opposed to the 12 speaker and 360W it came with. I like the HKs in the 2.

You do like it?
That's good to read.

Have you heard the HK system in the F30 3 series?
Power difference is almost double and that's significant.

I had the HK in my 135i and it was ok but still not very good for the added $900. The HK upgrade in my 335i Msport is a much better system than the HK in my 135i. Comparatively a much better deal.
The HK in the 135i should have only been about a $350-400 upgrade because the $875 for the HK in the 335i is a drastic difference.

I hope the HK in the M235i I'm ordering is good because I'll feel quite ripped off having to pay the same amount for it as the system in my 335i.
Just from spec's alone the HK in the 2 series should NOT cost that much.

[Michall]

I only listen to the engine/exhaust noises when I'm driving (even those fake noises)
If you want to listen to music properly do it in your home

[2msport]

Originally Posted by RPM90

You do like it?
That's good to read.

Have you heard the HK system in the F30 3 series?
Power difference is almost double and that's significant.

I had the HK in my 135i and it was ok but still not very good for the added $900. The HK upgrade in my 335i Msport is a much better system than the HK in my 135i. Comparatively a much better deal.
The HK in the 135i should have only been about a $350-400 upgrade because the $875 for the HK in the 335i is a drastic difference.

I hope the HK in the M235i I'm ordering is good because I'll feel quite ripped off having to pay the same amount for it as the system in my 335i.
Just from spec's alone the HK in the 2 series should NOT cost that much.

I do like it. I have heard the 3 series HK and I did notice it has more power giving a higher amount of clarity and transparency especially at a lower volume. I do however like the soundstage they created in the 2 better. All though I feel the 2 HK could have more bass it is definitely adequate to me. When the music calls for a big bass drop, it will sound off. It just won't add any extra. I have my EQs set to around 80-90% for both treble and bass. I think if more people did that they would be happier. Also using the USB input for max sound quality goes a long way. Music on the radio I agree is dismal. Remember to let your speakers burn-in for around 25 hours before being too critical. They will sound thin and unexciting at first.

The HK in the 2 won't be as good as your 335. To me it was worth it. Because even if the HK in the 2 isn't a great deal ($850, although I paid $500) trying to live with a MUCH worse standard hifi system was not an option for me. I needed something decent. And I personally think it's more than decent. I do agree the upgrade should only be $500 tops.

[2msport]

Originally Posted by Michall

I only listen to the engine/exhaust noises when I'm driving (even those fake noises)
If you want to listen to music properly do it in your home

Nice rig! that tube is badass always good to see some other hifi fans out there

[3.0L]

I seem to remember this car rocking back and forth deal at the drive-in movies back in the '60's.

[BMW335iOn18s]

This bothers me quite a bit on my MT M235i. I think this car needs stiffer engine/trans mounts...now that i've gotten used to the car it feels mushy and soft. I think my old E36 with fresh bushings and mounts was better..

[Michall]

Originally Posted by 2msport

It's not out yet for the 235. But I'm sure it will be soon. Something to look forward to.

I have it on my MT 228, with no other suspension mods. I do love it. I wish the car came from the factory with it. The issue I think you're experiencing comes down to the software with the dampers. The upgrade stiffens the ride up, eliminates almost all body roll (I think you'd have to be AutoXing to see body roll) but more importantly squashes the extra rebound in both sport and comfort. (I heard they change ECO to a lesser degree) The ride is firm and Very planted/flat yet still comfortable. The car is more neutral now and tends to oversteer much easier due to the weight shifting less. I HIGHLY recommend this to anyone who bought this car to be driven.

Thanks. If it helps with those oscillations and it'll eliminate most of the body roll I'll definitely buy it.

[supernova72]

Originally Posted by 2msport

dinan shockware.

I actually thought something was wrong with my M235i (6MT). It definitely rocks back and forth at a stoplight.

My E46 M3 did not do it.

Maybe I should give the Dinan Shockware a try ?

[Dylan86]

I haven't experienced this "rocking" myself, but I can attest that the MT cars definitely need some higher durometer engine/tranny mounts. Nothing drastic, maybe 20-30% stiffer.

D

[supernova72]

Originally Posted by Dylan86

I haven't experienced this "rocking" myself, but I can attest that the MT cars definitely need some higher durometer engine/tranny mounts. Nothing drastic, maybe 20-30% stiffer.

D

Yea, First world problems but the "rocking" is a little surprising. I need to do a test in sport mode to see if it reduces it. Overall I love the car. I've noticed during 0-60 functional testing the rear end moves a bit (non-LSD car here). Trying to be a bit more carful by not mashing the throttle.

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by Michall

Has anyone noticed that the car rocks back and forward at stop? It's rocking back and forth a few times after braking to a full stop.
I've never has experienced this with any of my previous cars.
It's doing this in comfort mode. I've not been driven it in the other modes because it's still under a brake in period but I'm not sure if it makes any difference.

You got hydraulics?

[ralawren]

My 2015 228i with the M Sport brakes will rock when I stop due to the brake pads grabbing so hard. It has taken me five months to get smooth and if I am not paying attention each full stop it will grab at the very end and rock the car. It has to be the pads/brakes because I do not have this issue with my 2013 C300. Same driver, same left foot braking but two very different results.

[Beartato]

Are we talking about that settling when you stop in this car? I've noticed it too, the only part that bothers me is when you park on a slope, pull the hand brake while your foot is still on the brake, shut the engine off, release the brake and the car seems to roll down the slope a little. Feels really odd, almost like I was driving an automatic and put it in park on a slope without pulling the hand brake. That's what we're talking about right?

[supernova72]

Originally Posted by Beartato

Are we talking about that settling when you stop in this car? I've noticed it too, the only part that bothers me is when you park on a slope, pull the hand brake while your foot is still on the brake, shut the engine off, release the brake and the car seems to roll down the slope a little. Feels really odd, almost like I was driving an automatic and put it in park on a slope without pulling the hand brake. That's what we're talking about right?

Yes, that too and also coming up to a stop light. The car literally moves back and forth if I apply the brakes in a normal manner. But yea also parking on a hill situation too.

[moldcad]

Hmm... So 6AT cars also suffer from this? I was sure it was an AT8 thing, as the tranny is the only thing in common between my current M235 and previous F10 528xi, which behave the same (regular brakes)...