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Regarding the tech, it'd be nice to have some Apple a bit more seamlessy integrated, but from what I've read Carplay isnt that great. You can still utilize Siri, music, etc already, so it wont be a massive leap. |
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Right plus the aftermarket marketplace for the N55 is pretty large. B58 will start from scratch so it'll take some time to have as many options as we have for tunes, exhausts, etc, etc. Granted, it'll probably get there quickly, but the N55 is already a proven platform.
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Similarly, the same thing happened between the N54 and N55. The N54 was (is) a much more tuneable engine than the N55, and was able to produce more power easier. I know the B58 will get there, it will just take some time thats all. I feel better on a tried and true platform rather than being a guinea pig on the new platform. A few years down the road when I am ready to upgrade again, I will jump into the new engine. |
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Regarding dmboone25's post you quoted, I think the only 'big' upgrades are a DCT and a wider track. The M235i already has good cooling, which I wouldn't doubt ///M engineers beef up a little bit because why not, and the adaptive-M suspension the US-spec 235i comes with is already a fantastic suspension, but I'm not seeing 'suspension' as being a huge upgrade. Other than that, styling cues, an actual "///M" badge (heirarchy) will draw most in, with the other ///M bits drawing the enthusiasts in with it's M environment you're surrounded in. With the M240i apparently close to 240hp, a simple piggy-back tune will get it to M2 numbers almost immediately (more likely surpassing it), so I don't think "MOAR POWRRRR" will play as much of a role as one might think. The M2 will undoubtedly be a fantastic car like the M235i already is, and like the 1M was (despite the 'parts-bin' crowd). I just don't see a majority taking an M2 over a 235/240. I think the M2 crowd will be the enthusiast crowd, as well as the 'enthusiasts love it so I do too and I'll buy it because I'm an enthusiast now' crowd. |
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Will the B46 also come with a detuned version to put in the 20i's? Or will the 20i vehicles continue using the N20 engines?
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This is as good as confirmation. Finally...
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Suspension can be a huge upgrade with respect to handling and was a big part of what separated the 1M from the 135i in terms of feel. How different the M2 will be in this regard is yet to be seen, but I anticipate it will be significant. That's not because the M235i's suspension is mediocre, but rather that it likely targets a different balance between comfort and handling than the M2 will. As for the LSD, I wasn't arguing that the factory-installed unit for the M2 would necessarily be superior, but rather that it being standard will likely contribute to a larger price gap than some who only look at power differential may be expecting. In terms of weight, I don't think 3200 lbs should be seen as unreasonable for a car this size and price point, but that's just me. I also agree that most won't take an M2 over an M235i, and I think that's completely fine. But it's all the more reason for BMW to offer the whole M package rather than just a performance tune.
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B46 is a US special - a SULEV complaint version of B48. |
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Maybe BMW was busy designing engines that actually pass emissions regulations while VW and Audi were working on CarPlay. We'll see which strategy pays off in the long run.
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I think the word "edition" is too specific to be used in regards to a "model" distinction. Nobody says "Hey, I just picked up a new 228i convertible edition!"
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Don't forget about G29.
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