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06-03-2014, 07:27 PM | #23 | |
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By way of comparison, C&D's numbers for the E92 M3 were 0-60 mph in 3.9 s and the 1/4 mile in 12.4 s at 114 mph. I don't think ANYONE else has recorded an E92 M3 on stock tires with a 3.9 s 0-60 mph, and that 1/4 mile ET and trap speed seem better than anything else I can recall seeing. Again, not a dig in any way; the review seems awesome. It's just always better to compare apples to apples. |
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Nice review. The M2 should be an awesome machine.
I just couldn't bring myself to pay $50k for a new M235i so I spent much less for a 2011 335i. Will definitely keep an eye out for a used M235i or M2 when the time is right. Considering its the "ultimate driving machine," the manual transmission on my 335i isn't that great, even with the UUC SSK and DSSR. Last edited by snaimpally; 06-03-2014 at 07:59 PM.. |
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06-03-2014, 07:36 PM | #26 |
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BUT…let's all settle down and remember it's not a *true* M car.
Just because it accelerates as fast, stops as quick, runs the skidpad as well, costs less and gets better mpg. It's really just a glorified 135i. <cough!> They also spend most of the article showing how it's equal to, or just a hair off the M3 specs…yet then mention that it costs 11 grand more than a base 228i (???) Nobody is mentioning a 228i and an M3 in the same breath. Don't talk about how the performance matches the torch-bearer for the brand and then talk about how the price is higher than the cheapest, entry-level car they offer. |
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http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/roa...4_bmw_2_series Their test numbers are lower than any I've seen in any publication. Wondering if they tested it at a high altitude or something.
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*M*235i, some people are really bothered by that. Sorry but that is what the car is called and the M moniker will go with it, whether they like it or not.
At the end of the day, I'll tell people I drive an M235i, and with the performance to back it up, that will be that.
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Gotta say though I like the numbers |
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06-03-2014, 08:03 PM | #32 |
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Probably comparably equipped to the used 335i he bought.
I still think the M235i is the bargain of the century, and even if it weren't a total bargain, it'd be a great car.
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C&D only uses a football field's worth of rollout...
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The M235i is a sweet ride. Personally I don't agree with C & D statement about the 6 speed manual being the choice for enthusiasts. I used to love manuals but after owing the 8 speed ZF, I would never go back - it is perfectly suited to the drivetrain and shifts almost as quickly as a DCT. Sometimes you just have to accept progress. The DTM drivers prefer paddles - its quicker. |
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On the M235i, the other two mags are quite similar. MT: 0-60 4.4 QM 13.0 @ 106.6 mph R&T: 0-60 4.5 QM 13.1 @ 107.8 mph
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Not much room between this and the M3 for a M2 to fit in. M235i xdrive might even take another 0.1 off |
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I wonder if BMW would ever consider having a special, manual only, performance model. Most sport compacts like the Civic Si, Speed 3, WRX etc. are available only with a manual transmission - if you want an automatic, you won't get the performance. (I think WRX this year is finally offered with an auto.)
Unfortunately, these days with 8 speeds and fast shifters, the automatics are as fast or faster than most manual transmissions. Pity. |
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