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02-14-2014, 12:52 AM | #89 |
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For what it's worth, it doesn't look half bad. You can only make that config look so good. Just no M badges please and we'll try really hard to look the other way.
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If you prefer a RWD minvan go buy the i3. If you don't want a minivan at all buy a 3er, i don't see the point of all this criticism. The things that should makes us thinking about is the shared platform between 3,4,5,6,7 and x models. To me that means a bigger 3/4, an increased price and no small RWD cars, and this sucks.
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So what people don't get or relate to they hate. It's fear based. Nothing more. |
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02-14-2014, 01:27 AM | #92 |
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It will sell very well in my opinion. But honestly I don't like it.
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02-14-2014, 01:31 AM | #93 |
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There once was a great car manufacturer who produced a 3 series, a 5 series, a 7 series, a 6 series coupe, and two SAVs. Many of these wonderful sporty cars came with a very durable, elegant n/a inline 6. The End! This company is no more. Now they make Minivans, electric toasters and put 3 cylinder engines in cars. I am truly very sad
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02-14-2014, 01:44 AM | #94 | |
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A mini-van fwd BMW, oh that just screams prestige. LOL Brand Loyalty - in other words "badge whoring" Won't be $40k in the US. I suppose you feel better paying $40k for a Mini with a BMW badge. Yup |
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02-14-2014, 02:50 AM | #96 |
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02-14-2014, 02:55 AM | #98 |
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I will buy this rather than the i3 for a daily dirve... This 2 series AT might be a good choice if the price is fair
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And concerning the Alpina -nice one but this will not happen. |
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02-14-2014, 03:29 AM | #102 | |
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Since BMW have no intention to offer additional vans than Active Tourer and its LWB version: the Gran Tourer, there would be illogical to start a new series (eg. F-series, V-series, E-series etc). Therefore only two alternatives were possible: to put 1er or 2er badge on the Active Tourer / Gran Tourer. BMW opted for 2er badge - officially due to Active Tourer / Gran Tourer is larger and more expensive than 1er, and the nomenclature oozes that. But the real reason is: BMW are making space for the sub-1er series. Currently the 2er Coupe & 2er Active Tourer are badged as 2er - soon be followed by 2er Convertible & 2er Gran Tourer (= LWB version of Active Tourer). The next generation of 1er will also be based on FWD platform (named "UKL"), and will also come with additional versions beside 3dr & 5dr hatch ... and it will be rebadged to 2-series! So, the 1er badge will be available for a smaller BMW-badged MINI-sized car - a direct rival to Audi A1. This also indicates that in the future X1 (most likely the Mk3 X1) will be rebadged to X2. Possible 3dr SAC version of a small BMW SAV will be marketed under the "xCoupe" trademark. X4 & X6 & possible X8 will retain the even nomenclature for the SAC versions of the X3 / X5 / X7 SAVs. Regarding RWD platform: everything from 3-series & up (incl the midsized & full-sized SAV & SAC models) will be based on the new highly modular multi-material RWD platform. Only the RR Phantom family will feature dedicated all-aluminum platform & body frame. Everything under 3er will be based on FWD UKL platform in the future (1er, 2er, X1 etc) - including all the MINI models (possible sub-MINI model - based on Rocketman Concept - will be based on a shrunken UKL0 platform but BMW seeks a partner for this particular project). All the platforms are AWD compatible & plug-in hybrid compatible. So, there will be technically possible every MINI & BMW model can get an AWD or plug-in hybrid version in the future. Not to mention the modular platforms will be extremely profitable - especially combined with modular engine platforms. Right now BMW Group has plans to put (at least) 15 models on "UKL" FWD platform, and (at least) 30 models on "35up" RWD platform. |
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02-14-2014, 03:45 AM | #104 |
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I get the idea of expanding / cater to wider audience but ;
it looks hideous UK prices place it around a base 3 series I don't get why anyone would buy this over a 3 series / x1 since they cost the same |
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X1 and 3er customers are a different target. This car is for who now buys B-class, Golf Plus, Ford C Max or the Ranult Scenic.
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It actually looks not too bad. What I am most surprised about is why it is named as a 2-series and not 1-series. Or how about a V-series as it has been speculated since the 2000's.
It annoys me that BMW suck when it comes to LED technology. Audi and Mercedes put LEDs in everything and all models, while BMW does not do this. C'mon BMW. We live in 2014!!. And when we get to see some decent entisuast cars that compete with MB SLS/R8 (do not try to say i8), MB AMG GT, MB S-Class coupe + + + Wake up BMW!!!! Mercedes and Audi will be the leaders in just few years. EDIT: And what the hell is that cheap-looking-Peugeot Head-up Display??
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02-14-2014, 04:47 AM | #110 | |
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So, in essence BMW will only work with two (modular) platforms in the future. One FWD and one RWD. I'm not sure a shared platform between a 3-Series and an 8-Series can work without compromises. And I'm curious to see how many variations the next generation FWD 2-Series will spawn. 3-door hatchback, 5-door hatchback, coupe, convertible, possible sedan and/or Gran Coupe, Active Tourer, Gran Tourer, some kind of X vehicle, etc. I'm all for new BMW vehicles, even niche ones I just like the odd/even nomenclature. Obviously lots of space is needed below the 2-Series for that many UKL vehicles coming so it does make sense. |
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