BMW M235i is Faster On Track Than 1M Coupe (Our 2 Series Interview From Detroit) |
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01-16-2014, 02:35 AM | #67 | |
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I reckon the M2 could easily come in at 4.3s to 4.4s for a 0-60 time as opposed to 4.8s for the M235i. Depends how light they make it and how much power, naturally. The demand is there for sure, the 1M has proven that theory. But its not just about the performance. It's the experience. This M2 will sell like hot cakes. BMW's main issue will be if it takes too many sales away from the M3/M4. Last edited by as7920; 01-16-2014 at 02:42 AM.. |
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It's also overcoming the wider track and wider tires, that's what's impressive.. Let alone less torque and power. |
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I would never change my 1m to an m235i. 1m has wide wheel arches looks the bomb and drives the bomb it s a small nimble car which still gives me after 2.5 years of ownership still the thrills when driving/sliding it on the edge.
Only a 6 cil m2 could get me out of my 1m coupe. If it gives me the same experiance of my 1m coupe! Buying a bigger m3 or m4 is no way a consideration! |
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One thing I thought was interesting was the comparison of the 135/1M brakes to the M235 brakes. Didn't this guy say that because of the tires on the M235, those brakes were going to be better performers?
Makes you wonder how much better the 1er's would be with better rubber...
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I am excited for my M235, which should be a better experience than both of my E82s. I have no delusions that it will be as exciting as a true M car....and I sincerely hope that BMW gives this 2er the full ///M goodies--that would be one hell of a car.
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It looks like SCOTT hasn't been doing his (their) job. How can an optional LSD, exceed their estimates..? When everyone, & I mean everyone... knows that BMW's should come with an LSD. And have been BEGGING for them to come back. Honestly, how can BMW miss all of the people complaining over the last 10 years, about the absence of LSDs in BMWs. They are all but admitting that BMW has not listen to their customer base in a long while. Secondly, nobody is going to order a $48k M235i, if there wasn't a LSD option. Funny thing is, an LSD still isn't an option, because they don't have enough (& the Germans get first crack at them, so be prepared to wait with your $1,500). |
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does this mean that finally xdrive will get the same ride height and suspension setup for once?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
(propbably not but here's to hoping they dont jack it up and put the stock 228 suspension in the msport trim)
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While the 1M is very fast, it was really designed to be a brutal, raw, fun, and an analogue machine in a time where electronics, adaptable suspensions, etc. are becoming the norm. The 1M's performance has always been underrated by BMW (as stated in previous posts) to protect the M3 from a marketing perspective. I would expect that in side by side comparisons with the same driver and on the same day that the 1M would indeed be faster on many tracks due to its power-to-weight ratio and larger rubber. However, there are some features of the M235i that would make it faster on some tracks:
Given all of this, slap some PSSs on the 1M and its likely going to be the faster car in the real world. Also, the 1M will always be better at this: |
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My experience with both PS2's and PSS's on my Z3 M Coupe are that the PSS's have a softer sidewall and wear much better than PS2's, but they were not an improvement on the track. Look elsewhere for your huckleberry. I think the only cars they truly helped are much heavier than the 1M or the M235i.
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What enthusiasts need is a rwd 3200 lbs (or less) car that has basic features like Cayman R. I am sick of these overweight, luxury piglets that you need to invest another 10K to make usable on track and have no steering feel. M3/4 is clearly huge.
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It's just a Bastardized M Car. In Germany people see it as a M Performance Model not a true and proper M Car. Imagine that! |
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I have some curvy roads by my house that I rip through every day, whether it's on the Duc or in the 135, but I love the fact that I have A/C and a nice stereo. I would like to see an M2 (higher performance) but keep some level of comfort. Perhaps that's why the M235 will be so "good" and enough to eventually get people into the M3 or 4 (aka no M2). I am personally not inclined to be one of those people because the 3/4 are physically too large for me--but I would still like some of the comforts that I am used to, which is why the M235 fits the bill for me with the current choices that are available.
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