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and im guessing you would lease the m235 for 3 years? if you were to get one that is
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I was told today that you might get an early Christmas gift with the first prototypes at the end or turn of the year. Seen this on the other thread. So I will reply here. Quote:
The car is viable because of the modular architecture within the platform. The car won't appear tomorrow. At least we are looking at a possible mid-late 2015 introduction. BMW need to assess the reaction regarding the CLA and A3 Sedan in regards to how they affect the next step ie C-Klasse and A4 especially in regards to upcoming replacements. Another factor is at best the car will be a four seater and rear passenger leg room will not be class leading. But as some have said the potential for a four dr is high given the lukewarm reaction to the CLA et all and there is awareness that there is a grand opportunity to gate crash the segment and dominate because there is potential in the new 2er , a lot more potential especially the Gran Coupe. For the time being the regular 2er can stand up to the CLA and all even minus the rear doors. The next part of the 2er family commences next year with the launch of the 2er Cabrio along with a new entry petrol model and mid range diesel (European market only) and the 2er Cabrio in time from the summer six months from now. Also arriving gives an indication of the future generations showing a series split between FWD and RWD. The BMW 2er Active Tourer will premiere in Geneva March 2014. Introduction will be in the new year. For the segment the BMW will be the most driver orientated vehicle in its respective class.
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... M2 anyone?
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10-25-2013, 03:51 PM | #405 |
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A NA version of the S55 running to 9000 rpm in the M2 please That should also save 100 lbs or so of Turbo stuff. Add some CF and Alu to drop another 150 lbs and we have an absolute barn stormer to rule the track and streets GT3 style.
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I see what you're saying - but now that I've been sampling n54 torque levels - I will REALLY have a tough time going back to a gutless low-end. And that's after having built an e36 M3 to 11:1 compression, cams, etc,... screamed like a banshee. But, in my opinion: Keep the turbos,... and make sure the M2 has 6 cyls. Take it from the M3/4, or tweak the n55 - I don't care. Just keep the torque, and give me a reasonably high redline. 7k will suffice. |
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10-25-2013, 04:18 PM | #409 |
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Or say a ~380 hp high revving NA version of the S55 and make it 200 lbs lighter than the M3/M4. It would be a vastly different beast fro the M235i and M3/M4 that have a lot less overall power than the F8Xs and not infringe on it's performance superiority but for many it would be a greater car and truer to M heritage.
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I want the M235i with Dakota Lather Oyster/Dark interior like in the "modern" line. Normal Oyster is lame x[
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I really want to see a picture of the 19s, as I think the car needs a wider stance.
May get the M performance suspension just to make it look a little bit more aggressive. I'm sure it's already been answered, but when are we seeing deliveries??
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10-25-2013, 05:27 PM | #417 |
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As it looks from the German order guide the 19s will not be any wider just taller. I agree that it will need 19s to balance the design and the 10mm extra drop from the perf. suspension should complete the side profile. I hope the US guide will have wider 19 wheels and rubber but I doubt it.
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