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FYI: by the time this car gets to the US market it will be heavier (due to federally required add ons) and will be about the same weight as the current E82---- we are all currently using South African weights which are not equivalent to US standards.
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I have had 2 E82s, and never felt that weight was any sort of issue--the M235 will be in that same range and have more power, so it should be a good recipe...
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10-15-2013, 12:11 PM | #49 |
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That's inside BMW of North America's engineering garage in Woodcliff Lake, NJ. lol that's strictly a no camera zone, so not a smart idea by whoever took that picture...
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The only thing so far that I'm not liking too much, is how tall the cabin is. I would have loved seeing more of a slender roof line. Like the 4 series.
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Still doesn't make sense...you're paying a premium to own a "4" instead of a "2". They should be giving the 4's more power I'd this is the way it's gonna go. They're also at a disadvantage on weight too.
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Tell that to the 1 series owners who have faster cars then 3 series owners...
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Ya don't be a hater... if you want a faster car go buy an M4 :-D
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Maybe they want the "4" to be more of a boulevard cruiser..
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Nope, it'll have the same HP, they're all just using the N55HP tune. Just like the 6er, 7er, M135, M Performance 335i (CA) and M Performance X5 and X6.
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If they can sell it for a profit, then that's the point. Just like the 335is over the 135is. It all depends on what someone is looking for in a vehicle.
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Ha, it's funny that many of us complain about the fragmentation of the BMW product line, but at the same time benefit from it. I can't stand the large size of the 4er and am happy the 2er exists. Of course what I'd really like is a 1er, hatch or sedan, or a 2 GC, as the 3er is also way too big to interest me.
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I think the new 3/4 are too big as well. The size of the 2 looks promising, also like the sound of a 2GC.
It is odd I always hear that Europeans embrace smaller cars, hot hatches, etc. But the cars coming out of Germany keep getting bigger and bigger. |
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agreed. the last respectable 3-series was the E46. Everything after that has been fat and bloated.
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