08-16-2016, 02:54 PM | #89 |
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A bit of a reality check for some, if I may:
Nothing that is mass produced -- nothing -- is going to make you completely happy or 'tick all of the boxes'. This is partially why there is an aftermarket for automobiles of all shapes, sizes, and uses. Nothing produced for people other than yourself (read: thousands upon thousands in the case of a car model) is going to make someone else totally happy. This is also partially why there is an aftermarket for other items that people feel immense passion for, or feel a need to make better for them beyond OEM. Two examples of this: musical instruments and stereo equipment. Two more: houses and furniture. I could go on, but I've made my point. The right approach is to pursue the car that is closest to your ideal out of the box, then make it even closer if you desire or feel a need. (Anecdote: I have my dream bass guitar. Is it stock? Hell no. It has the neck of one model, the body of another, aftermarket pickups and preamp, and I tested about 10 brands of strings on it before I found a set that truly made it sing.)
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08-16-2016, 03:03 PM | #90 | |
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What if you aren't sure? If you like the handling and drive feel of the BMW but the soft luxury and aggressive sound of the Merc? And you aren't sure which you care about more? Then you can buy one and add the features of the other - but this isn't always feasible. With the Merc, I guess you can tune it to drive more aggressively. But with the BMW, if the interior doesn't meet your needs, what can you really do? Aftermarket interior? Sounds very complicated, if it's even possible, to get all new leather seats or a dash, and would probably be very expensive. In the grand scheme of things, not being sure what luxury performance vehicle to buy is quite a great problem to have and I can't really complain as a 22-year old. And I guess I would love either car. Hard to imagine stepping in the M240i, pushing the start button and thinking "damn, I wish I had the HUD that the Mercedes has, I should have bought that car". |
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08-16-2016, 03:14 PM | #91 | |
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All kidding aside I was wondering what the hell you were talking about until I read your age, now it all makes sense. I was young once too, and yes it is nice to have it all, but perfection is unobtainable when it comes to cars. |
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08-16-2016, 03:26 PM | #92 |
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If you want HUD, this is the wrong car. This car has been simplified to offer a somewhat basic yet effective driver oriented dashboard and seating experience. They spent a decent amount time to make is more BASIC, which is what a lot of people seem to like about the current configuration.. It's not full of gadgetry and all of the things Audi/Merc are doing to sell cars. The 2 series was brought in to satisfy those wanting a somewhat "pure" experience but not at the expense of being too pure for a daily driver in terms of comfort. They couldn't possibly make us all happy in doing this.
The fun is there when you want/need it, and the comfort is also there when the fun is unwanted. It's not a track focused car like a full on M, nor a comfort focused car like a Merc. To me, it's in the perfect spot to hit the marks for a warm season daily driver (RWD, Sporty, Comfortable, Solid, 6MT). If you need AWD, it's available too for 12 months of service in colder climates. Definitely a narrow marketed car, and it seems there's a lot of us in this market who are more than satisfied with the end product, and some who clearly NEED an M badge to feel satisfied or "pure" and end up getting into a big 4 door M3 (which to me is a totally different experience both in size, purpose and cost of ownership long term). Don't like it? trade it in...Always an option!
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Some of my issues are solvable, but I am not a big fan of wasting money on mods. I would probably go with KW DCC suspension first, maybe some not so loud exhaust (MP maybe)
Car is pretty good, manual is great, power is good too, just feels too disconnected from the road and can't even hear the engine sound |
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08-16-2016, 03:34 PM | #94 | |
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08-16-2016, 03:35 PM | #95 | |
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I wish dealers would let you take the car and actually drive it around for a day or two instead of a 30 minute test drive. |
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Performance cars, not so much. |
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Exactly and that is the point. In a 30 min test drive you should be able to find out everything you need to know about a performance car on whether it is worth buying or not.
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BMW worked very hard to make it quiet, you know. D
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08-16-2016, 03:53 PM | #101 | |
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At the same time, also know that this kind of decision isn't a be-all-end-all thing at your age. If you end up not liking what you acquire, the next one is right down the road a bit. You've got plenty of time to satiate your current tastes, develop new ones, and figure out what tastes best among it all. Just don't expect perfection. That doesn't exist because perfection in something such as a car is a mix of objective and subjective things. There will be compromises. That's life.
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I don't think I'd regret buying the M240 and letting go of the luxury of the Merc. But I think I might regret going for the luxury of the Merc over the handling of the M240. I guess none of this matters until I've had a chance to push both cars HARD ( I haven't, the Merc drive was limited to a highway) and I have offers in front of me so I can compare prices. |
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LOL. How will driving the 2er ragtop improve the "I don't like the way it looks"?
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What I was getting at in my post in particular was unneeded additional technology. Since when was a HUD "needed" or "required"? Sure it's a nice feature when it works or when you're under warranty, but it's also one more thing to fail under long term ownership. One reason many of us bought this car was because it was simplified. With technology going the direction it is, I wanted a car that brought back the basics of driving dynamics and "feel", this car was the first I drove in a long time that gave me a sense of feel and confidence from a RWD car. There's also a certain level of confidence with a 6spd manual, tried and true N55 powertrain, knowing we can get a good service life out of the car (not all of us lease). If BMW put a HUD, and dressed up the tech list like the competitors, we the end consumer would pay for it. This is already a fairly high priced car for what it is and I think anything in addition to what's currently offered would just drive prices up and sales down. Just look at how many here bought the bare bones model with LSD (what I was after before I found my deal) which is basically sunroof delete, no tech, no assistance packages, nothing, just a bare bones fun sporty 2 door BMW that's a joy to drive. Once you load all the tech and accessories you're well over $10k above base and it's almost into M2 territory. If you're driven off of features, then this car may disappoint you at it's price point. Mercedes may be more aligned to your wants/needs. It's you at the end of the day making the decision, and whatever it is you need to swallow the pill, not us. Buy what suits your lifestyle, not others. Also, take my opinion with a grain of salt, it's just my $.02 D
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The fact that the M2 is so close in price is one of the most frustrating things about the car, and I think that if the M2 were available without an extremely absurdly long wait I'd pull the trigger on one. I do see what you're saying about the goal of simplicity. I have to balance that with the "daily driver" aspect as well. You're right that if technology and features are what I'm after, then I should go MB. But technology and features aren't really what I'm after - I'm after the driving feeling, but I just want technology and features ALSO. So then you get back to the point of "wanting it all" - and I'd certainly have to pay for that. Case in point - the C43 AMG loaded up how I like it, with all the assistance packages, HUD, leather, etc... 63k. Whereas, I think I can load up an M240i that I'll be happy with for 52k MSRP. In the end, you've helped me realize something - what I want is the feel of the M240i with the luxury of the C43. For that, I think I'm looking at M3 price range, 75k+ fully loaded... But then, I might as well start looking at 911s. After that, I'll figure, might as well look 20k up and look at an R8. In the end, the M240i is probably the right car for me. It made me laugh when I drove it, what more can you ask of a car? |
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To the OP:
Since you seem to be unhappy with your car, why not trade it in on something that you can truly love? What is the point of bitching about your M235i; the car you actually bought and ultimately don't like? Jeepers dude, just about every car enthusiast has ended up with a car they don't like. Frig, get rid of it. Put both you and your car out of your misery and sell it to someone who will enjoy it. Free yourself!
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