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      06-23-2022, 12:47 PM   #334

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Originally Posted by ZL9M2 View Post
Absolutely! For example, the Reuters reference above compares a ~$50k Tesla to a ~$20k Corolla. And only compares the ongoing operating parameters of the two, not the total environmental and economic picture.

It's unicorn farts and fairy dust.
Show us the comparative data then that you claim supports your assertions.

PS: If you'd read more into the model they used (Argonne National Laboratory model), the battery type and size is included in their model's carbon estimates and factors in extraction/processing.

The model was developed by the Argonne National Laboratory in Chicago and includes thousands of parameters from the type metals in an electric vehicle (EV) battery to the amount of aluminium or plastic in a car.

Argonne's Greenhouse Gases, Regulated Emissions and Energy Use in Technologies (GREET) model is now being used with other tools to help shape policy at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the California Air Resources Board, the two main regulators of vehicle emissions in the United States.

Jarod Cory Kelly, principal energy systems analyst at Argonne, said making EVs generates more carbon than combustion engine cars, mainly due to the extraction and processing of minerals in EV batteries and production of the power cells.

But estimates as to how big that carbon gap is when a car is first sold and where the "break-even" point comes for EVs during their lifetime can vary widely, depending on the assumptions.

Kelly said the payback period then depends on factors such as the size of the EV's battery, the fuel economy of a gasoline car and how the power used to charge an EV is generated.

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